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Supreme Leader(3)

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Username: Supreme Leader(3)

Name
Supreme Leader(3)

Your Age
18

Do you have at least 3 days cumulative days of playtime on Blackwonder servers in the last year? Yes i do, https://tfstats.tf/player/217460

Have you been punished in the last 60 days? No

Have you had an application declined in the last 90 days? No

Do you have a microphone? Yes

Have you read the forum guide on how to apply? Yes

Location
Singapore

Your SteamID2
STEAM_0:1:428463666

Your DiscordID
Supreme Leader#9123

Have you managed servers previously? Yes

Which servers have you previously managed?
I've managed blackwonder Sg jailbreak and Aus jailbreak 3 years ago and was demoted 2 and a half months later due to abusing my powers and other reasons.

On what servers do you usually play on, and which servers would you like to moderate?
I would like to moderate Us Jailbreak

Why would you like to become a moderator?
Firstly i would like to apologise for the inconvenience i have caused in Blackwonder, I've been a terrible player as a moderator and a reporter and i really regretted it since.
I would like to become a moderator because i recently thought about trying to redeem myself back into the team and in hope that i can be welcome back again after 3 years and i would like to enforce the rules to those who are new to the server and hopefully help out Us jailbreak when most staff members are offline due to their timezone.

Do you know or have spoken to any of the current staff members? Yes

Please let us know the names of staff members you know or have spoken to
Honey

How often do you play TF2?
I am currently serving the army so i can most likely play on friday, saturday and sunday most likely 5 hours on each day. (Depending on my schedule)

Please give us your ideal way of punishing players, specific to the servers you want to moderate
EVERYONE
Cheating
> Permanent Ban with proof

Advertising hacks : Permanent mute/gag

NSFW spray : Spray ban

Talking over warden : Warn > 2 hour mute > 8 hour mute > 1 day mute > 2 day mute > 1 week mute > 2 week mute > 1 month mute > Permanent mute

Ghosting : Warn > 2 hour gag > 8 hour gag > 1 day gag > 2 day gag > 1 week gag > 2 week gag > 1 month gag > Permanent gag

Toxicity : Warn > 2 hour mute/gag > 8 hour mute/gag > 1 day mute/gag > 2 day mute/gag > 1 week mute/gag > 2 week mute/gag > 1 month mute/gag > Permanent mute/gag

Mic/Chat spam : Warn > 2 hour mute/gag > 8 hour mute/gag > 1 day mute/gag > 2 day mute/gag > 1 week mute/gag > 2 week mute/gag > 1 month mute/gag > Permanent mute/gag

Racism : Warn > 2 hour mute/gag > 8 hour mute/gag > 1 day mute/gag > 2 day mute/gag > 1 week mute/gag > 2 week mute/gag > 1 month mute/gag >Permanent mute/gag

Delaying : Warn > Slay

Stickytrapping : Warn > slay > 2 hour ban > 8 hour ban > 1 day ban > 2 day ban > 1 week ban > 2 week ban > 1 month ban > Permanent ban

Armoury camping : Warn > Slay

Warden impersonation : Warn > 2 hour mute > 8 hour mute > 1 day mute > 2 day mute > 1 week mute > 2 week mute > 1 month mute > Permanent mute

Impersonating staff member : Warn > 2 hour ban > 8 hour ban > 1 day ban > 2 day ban > 1 week ban > 2 week ban > 1 month ban > Permanent ban

Speaking foreign language : Warn > 2 hour mute > 8 hour mute > 1 day mute > 2 day mute > 1 week mute > 2 week mute > 1 month mute > Permanent mute

Donor abusing : 2 day ban > remove perks and 1 week ban > 2 week ban > 1 month ban > Permanent ban

Vote dodge : 2 hour ban > 8 hour ban > 1 day ban > 2 day ban > 1 week ban > 2 week ban > 1 month ban > Permanent ban

Abusing !calladmin : 2 hour ban > 8 hour ban > 1 day ban > 2 day ban > 1 week ban > 2 week ban > 1 month ban > Permanent ban

Exploiting : Warn > slay > 2 hour ban > 8 hour ban > 1 day ban > 2 day ban > 1 week ban > 2 week ban > 1 month ban > Permanent ban

Calling out undercover staff : Warn > 2 hour mute/gag > 8 hour mute/gag > 1 day mute/gag > 2 day mute/gag > 1 week mute/gag > 2 week mute/gag > Permanent mute/gag

RED TEAM
Freeday abusing : Warn > slay

BLUE TEAM
Nomic : Permanent teamban

Freehit : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Freekill : Warn and respawn the red that was freekilled > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Mass freekill : 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Favouritism : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Hunting without warden's permission : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Lr denial : Warn and give the red who won lr a freeday > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Button griefing : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Breaking rebelling breakable : Warn > slay

Constantly baiting : Warn > slay

WARDEN
Illegal FF
: Disable ff and warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Chaining special days : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Renaming reds : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Lying as warden : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Kill order : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Unwarden : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Doing banned minigames/doing meat grinder as first minigame : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Warden hogging : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Not giving a repeat when asked : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Doing the same minigame more than 3 times in a row : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Trick order : Warn > slay > 2 hour teamban > 8 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 2 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 2 week teamban > 1 month teamban > Permanent teamban

Most of my punishment lengths are for those who are intentionally rule breaking, for accidental i will be more lenient.

Is there any other information you would like us to know about?
As i said above, i was a moderator in Blackwonder and one of the reason why i was demoted was that i was too strict and punished them immediately after they broke the rules. From now on i will warn depending on their prios, when their last warn was and when were they punished before for the same rule.

My most recent ban was on 15Feb 2021 for "Numerous false report" ( 1 Week) by Rainbowrobb.
My most recent comms was on 24Nov 2018 for "Spamming W + Prios" ( 4 Weeks) by Wanka.
My most recent teamban was on 3June 2021 for "Illegal FF" by Charly ( 30 minutes) when he was a donor.

Once again i understand if this application will be declined due to overall being a terrible player in Blackwonder throughout my 4 years, thank you for reading my application.

Changelog :
1. Added Bold and Colors.
2. Extended my playtime to Friday - Sunday ( Previous was Friday - Saturday).
Are you proficient in languages other than English? No
 
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honey

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Hi Supreme,

Since you've mentioned me as the staff member you've spoken to before posting this application I guess I am somewhat obligated to reply to this and give my honest opinion on how I'd think you'd perform in the position but before I get into any of that. Let's walk through the basics here first.

Your recent chatlogs are clean, as of recent I cannot find any toxicity or disturbing language being used. I also see a common trend with you reminding new players of the rules which is very good to see.

As for your playtime which can be found here:
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It is far above the requirement for staff. I can also personally vouch as well that over the course of the past 6 months I have seen you actively playing the server every week. Although one concern that you've brought up with me in private is that you are no longer able to play as much anymore as you have some personal manners to deal with limiting your playtime down to only being on Fri-Saturday.
We don't require you to play everyday and we also understand that you have a life outside of your computer but I am a bit surprised why you chose to apply for staff when you're the least active you have been in a while.

As for your punishment ladder as far as what I can see everything looks good. It's always good to make sure the player has been warned and understands the rule they've broken before moving past a warning. Though this does change depending on the players priors/intent. So I'm glad to see that you've introduced that approach to your punishment ladder. To add to that you're also firm in the places you need to be such as Mass freekilling and donor abuse.

In regards to your recent punishments. You currently do not have any punishments that are too new. Most of your teambans are from approximately a year or more ago:
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Same for your bans:
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I will also be putting this here for reference that this is your fifth application and your previous applications can be found below:
1. https://blackwonder.tf/threads/supreme-leaders-admin-application.13990/ [Declined]
2. https://blackwonder.tf/threads/supreme-leaders-admin-application.13659/ [Declined]
3. https://blackwonder.tf/threads/supreme-leaders-admin-application.15968/#post-68334 [Accepted]
4. https://blackwonder.tf/threads/supreme-leaders-admin-application.14507/ [Declined]

Overall your application looks good so we'll move past that onto the next thing.

My overall experience with you has been very pleasant. You frequently play on blue team which requires a decent amount of knowledge of the rules. You often educate new players of said rules as well. You do your best to make sure you actively report people on topic you have made sure you're reporting people as of recent for appropriate reasons. You also reach out to me on a daily basis and inform me of chaos going on in US Jailbreak which is very good to see.

The biggest issue here for me is your past. You've been trusted once why should we trust you again?
As you've mentioned in your application you used to be a moderator for Blackwonder specifically for the Jailbreak servers. You lost your perms due to admin abuse and punishing players firmly without a warning.

To be honest supreme this trait it is still very much present regardless of whether or not you're staff. You consistently report players for the smallest reasons (as of recent you're making changes) and even have acknowledged to me in private that you are aware they are new players and don't understand the rules and the issues you report them for do not always necessarily warrant a full report. Instead there has been several occasions where you could have educated the player about the rules before moving forward with reporting them. This is something that you have also been punished for in the past.

In consideration of what has been mentioned above. I do firmly believe your intentions are good. You also seem very apologetic for your previous actions. Unfortunately regardless of your current behaviour. We cannot forget what has happened in the past. According to some other staff member's you were given plenty of times to change the way you behaved and you didn't. You were trusted with a significant amount of power and you took advantage of that.

With that being said I wish you the best of luck on your application, although I will not be giving you my support for obvious reasons.
 
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Supreme Leader(3)

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Hi honey, thank you for taking your time to respond to my app it really means a lot coming from you.

Although one concern that you've brought up with me in private is that you are no longer able to play as much anymore as you have some personal manners to deal with limiting your playtime down to only being on Fri-Saturday.
We don't require you to play everyday and we also understand that you have a life outside of your computer but I am a bit surprised why you chose to apply for staff when you're the least active you have been in a while.
I know that this might not be the best time to apply due to my playtime dropping because other days i'm outside the country(@TheCrappyCompletionist would understand) and only come back during the days i listed but i try to come to the server when I can, as much as possible.

The biggest issue here for me is your past. You've been trusted once why should we trust you again?
As you've mentioned in your application you used to be a moderator for Blackwonder specifically for the Jailbreak servers. You lost your perms due to admin abuse and punishing players firmly without a warning.
I don't expect to be trusted again but i applied to hope that i can show that i've changed during my 3 years and for those who once believed in me didn't regret it even though it might be too late, I'm not sure how i can show that i've changed other than this and i'm willing to take any consequences there is if i ever abuse my powers again and you won't have to hear my name ever again, i will go to the extreme just for this because this has occasionally been on my mind thinking why did i mod abuse? i was not ready for it, am i ready for it now? i'm not sure too but i can assure you that i've changed a lot from my past.

To be honest supreme this trait it is still very much present regardless of whether or not you're staff. You consistently report players for the smallest reasons (as of recent you're making changes) and even have acknowledged to me in private that you are aware they don't understand the rules and the issue is quite minor. Instead there has been several occasions where you could have educated the player about the rules before moving forward with reporting them. This is something that you have also been punished for in the past.
I have learnt to not report unless they are intentionally rule breaking and causing disturbance to the server as shown in my ban on 15Feb 2021, it has been well over a year since the problem but I have to admit that most of my reports have made both Aus and Sg Jailbreak dead for about a year and a half which it shouldn't be forgiven and I really apologise for it.

With that being said I wish you the best of luck on your application, although I will not be giving you my support for obvious reasons.
I truly understand why you're not supporting my app, i would've done the same but it was the only way to show that i've changed.
 
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As I said above, my playtime dropped due to army but previously when I was mod I used to play everyday for a long period of time, I abused my commands and was too late to be forgiven due to a huge negative impact I've made, now that since I only play 3 days per week if I ever abuse my commands again, it won't affect the community as much as I did 3 years ago but then again it's all about trust and I can't show that just yet but my intentions are good just that the tools I used was in the wrong way and I will take full responsibility for my actions if I ever abuse again.
 
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Heya, I'm going to leave my thoughts here.

While the concerns about your past actions as moderator have already been brought up and whether or not you can be trusted again, one of my major concerns is how strict you would be as staff. You would report for the smallest infractions/for nothing at all, which resulted in your week ban. Jailbreak is a complex gamemode to play in itself, let alone moderate. There is a degree of leniency that is needed when moderating jailbreak to keep the game fun and to keep it moving. Overmoderation overtime has been a contributing factor in the past to a jb server's death, which no one wants.
I have learnt to not report unless they are intentionally rule breaking and causing disturbance to the server as shown in my ban on 15Feb 2021, it has been well over a year since the problem but I have to admit that most of my reports have made both Aus and Sg Jailbreak dead for about a year and a half which it shouldn't be forgiven and I really apologise for it.
While you have said that you have learnt since your ban and to only report people for intentional rule breaks, it is still a concern as who knows what will happen once you actually regain your perms if accepted.

This coupled with the potential trust issues people may have that have been stated previously, I unfortunately can't say that it would be a good idea for this application to be accepted.

Otherwise, good luck with the application.
 

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Hi Crikey, thanks for responding on my application.
one of my major concerns is how strict you would be as staff. You would report for the smallest infractions/for nothing at all, which resulted in your week ban.
I understand why you're concerned about it but I've changed over the course of almost 2 years in reporting players and how to handle them by trying to enforce the rules to them instead.

it is still a concern as who knows what will happen once you actually regain your perms if accepted.
That is true but I would like to bring up that every consequence that I've taken ( from donor abuse back in 2018, and exploiting the report system in 2021) , I have never repeated the same mistake twice, though its not something I'm proud of but it shows that I have really reflected on my actions and would like to move on. I will be more cautious when handling players who break the rules and I hope that I can have 1 last chance to show that I'm not who I used to be back in 2019 as a mod but someone who really changed for the better.
 
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