Declined Remove Warden Crits

[Mr.Mmph#Pyro]

So Guards have crits when warden is not locked,which is very unfair,it makes rebeling very hard and your qeustion maybe,why rebel?Because ive played jailbreak for a while,and its became boring,but rebeling is fun,many people will agree that rebeling is fun.BUT NOT when you get killed by a all-crit w+m1 pyro,or 1 shot by a scout,shotgun,or spy,so thats why i want them removed!!

 

[MiyukiMouse]

TBH, rebelling is fun sometimes but not all the time. It'll get boring if everyone can easily rebel everytime. But that's my opinion.

 

[2010wolf | Blw.tf]

UUUUUgh the color, my eyes!!!
why did you think coloring it yellow is a good idea anyways.

and Ya, what miyu said, making it harder by applying crits is okay.

 

[Sakuya]

Ok I would love to state my opinion but dear god I can't even look at the post for a second! My eyes are bleeding!

 

[Sakuya]

Alright I managed to read it (barely) and I am up for removing warden crits, it makes me mad when you go through the trouble of sneaking past the blues, acquiring ammo, and attacking all just to be stopped by a blue who one shots you because of constant crits. So I definitely do support this idea, it is my opinion but i'm sure some people will agree with it.

 

[Boney African Feet]

So Guards have crits when warden is not locked,which is very unfair,it makes rebeling very hard and your qeustion maybe,why rebel?Because ive played jailbreak for a while,and its became boring,but rebeling is fun,many people will agree that rebeling is fun.BUT NOT when you get killed by a all-crit w+m1 pyro,or 1 shot by a scout,shotgun,or spy,so thats why i want them removed!!

Stop the yellow please ugh. Also I find this a terrible idea mainly because rebelling is already the easiest thing in the world someone that might know me can tell you that I rebel all the time and I barely get caught.

So I decided to give you some tips on rebelling

1: Scoping snipers don't see anything, if your a spy you can just backstab them or if you're another class, run
2: Be sneaky, sometimes you can just run off and no one will notice it until the next minigame.
3: Make sure to hit baiters, each guard dead can't stop you

 

[Sakuya]

Stop the yellow please ugh. Also I find this a terrible idea mainly because rebelling is already the easiest thing in the world someone that might know me can tell you that I rebel all the time and I barely get caught.

So I decided to give you some tips on rebelling

1: Scoping snipers don't see anything, if your a spy you can just backstab them or if you're another class, run
2: Be sneaky, sometimes you can just run off and no one will notice it until the next minigame.
3: Make sure to hit baiters, each guard dead can't stop you

I remember yesterday when you rebelled, you got ammo, killed a blue, but got killed by a pyro with crits, you got to admit it's annoying but I am reconsidering my decision to keep warden crits

 

[Boney African Feet]

I remember yesterday when you rebelled, you got ammo, killed a blue, but got killed by a pyro with crits, you got to admit it's annoying but I am reconsidering my decision to keep warden crits

That's because of my like 150 ping on LA can't deal with that

And I was also playing clash Royale at the same time so I wasn't really doing my absolute best xD

 

[Sakuya]

That's because of my like 150 ping on LA can't deal with that

No we're not involving ping here, you were scorching the enemy pyro but because of the crits, he killed you with ease although you should've won if he did not have crits

 

[Boney African Feet]

No we're not involving ping here, you were scorching the enemy pyro but because of the crits, he killed you with ease although you should've won if he did not have crits

Oh that moment yeah shouldn't rebelling be a lil challenging

 

[Sakuya]

Yea I guess it should, I guess the warden crits are there to aid the oblivious blues from getting overpowered so quickly since they don't notice the group of scouts slipping past them.

 

[Boney African Feet]

Yea I guess it should, I guess the warden crits are there to aid the oblivious blues from getting overpowered so quickly since they don't notice the group of scouts slipping past them.

What we could maybe consider though is changing the damage to x2 instead of x3 and have damage fall of

 

[Boney African Feet]

After talking to Sakuya on discord we came to the conclusion that 175% damage and damage fall off would be most fair since you can't 1 shot everyone with soldier/demo so less (accidental) freekills
And if you hit someone accidentally with a flamethrower he just barely lives and as of now he doesn't

So we came to the conclusion that 175% would be fair and balanced and also damage fall-off

 

[Ben289]

I don't believe they should be removed, which seems to be what is happening, and I agree with damage fall-off. But a lot of the time we seem to have oblivious blues who don't actually know whats going on. It's not impossible to rebel, but the difficulty I believe makes it more fun. Removing crits completely is would make it to easy to rebel. So damage fall off would be the only solution of doing it.

Maybe have a trial run of 175% damage and damage fall off for a few days, if it doesn't work, then remove it. Simple as.

Edit: Don't ever use yellow again, I had to highlight it to read it without my eyes dying.

 

[Benedevil]

We have a couple of options here. Either I change the substantial amount of code to do the 175% damage thing, or I just turn the crits into mini crits. As long as everyone agrees on the same thing.

Obviously we could also leave things as things as they are if we can't come to a conclusion

 

[Boney African Feet]

We have a couple of options here. Either I change the substantial amount of code to do the 175% damage thing, or I just turn the crits into mini crits. As long as everyone agrees on the same thing.

Obviously we could also leave things as things as they are if we can't come to a conclusion

Personally I think that no damage fall-off is the most overpowered thing and especially that should be changed, the mini-crits though seems not powerfull enough to me so I think that it should be like 175% at least

 

[♠Ace♠]

Mayby only the warden should have crits and the guards don't have them, or making the crits minicrits?

 

[Boney African Feet]

Mayby only the warden should have crits and the guards don't have them, or making the crits minicrits?

1 word crockets

 

[Viking34]

Jailbreak is not a 1v1 deathmatch. Full crits are completely neccessary for blues to have any hope in the world.

If you're having trouble rebelling, consider counting the hits various weapons will need to kill the various classes, then try to put yourself in a situation where you can get enough hits off in time. You gotta commit. As the simplest of examples, a 65-damage melee weapon will kill a light (125hp) class in two hits. Meaning you'll need to ensure that you can hit them once more after the initial strike. If you have not been noticed, there is not much they can do to stop you from getting a second hit off, crits or not.

For rebellers, the gamemode is about killing the blue players in an optimal fashion; you cannot get hit at all. Removing crits would be way too forgiving.

 

[MiyukiMouse]

I was on blu last night with Sak and I got killed few times in a row by rebels with random crits. So I don't think it's too unfair, otherwise it's non stop rebelling, no more minigames.....