Completed remove jetpack from jailbreak

[Jayycob]

we need this removed for both red and blu its the most anoyying part, they can auto escape the area easy, and can get to the ammo areas in some maps with the click of a button, please remove this as soon as possible

 

[Josh_]

why would it need to be removed from blu?

If red rebels he can easily fly around and find him.

 

[Goober___]

If red rebels he can easily fly around and find him.

same with the charge for demo. Thats not removed

 

[Shino]

To add on, it's been poorer to cope with for BLUs. At the start of the round 4 Pyros jetpack out of main cell area. It's decidedly difficult to catch them if they know what they're doing.

 

[Pablo The Wizard]

Alright so this is an idea I’ve been thinking about for a while now. I agree, jet packs should be removed, from BOTH teams. But instead, make an LR. JetPack Day: everyone, no matter what class, spawns with the jetpack. And if possible, it has infinite fuel.

 

[Jayycob]

but for real this needs to be removed from tf2 completely in my opinion or nerf'd its so annoying and i only see it fun on friendly servers for bhoping anything else its just plain out annoying

 

[Chauncey von Snuffles II]

I mean come on bois its not that hard if you are a good warden i mean i had like 8 pyros with jetpacks and i could easly keep track off them i mean just tell them that they are kos if they hold it out.

 

[Deleted member 2049]

I think it should be removed, because people like this

I disagree, I think having the jetpack adds a fun twist.

I think we should keep it for red, blus have gauranteed crits whe theres warden so its finaly time for reds to have a fair chance

Just want an easier way to rebel because they find its hard what with they got. I wouldnt really care if its removed from blu team or not, as for that gasoline tank though... ive seen some reds throw gasoline at blus like a sniper glitching jarate ammo. And from my understanding, people spawn with it without glitching it. Possibly though I could be wrong

 

[Vick30]

same with the charge for demo. Thats not removed

You can rocket jump with soldier even faster. Infact, if someone is rebelling the easiest way to get them the fastest way is by rocket jumping, not charging, sticky jumping or jetpacking.

 

[Jayycob]

its not even fun anymore if you have 2-8 pyro's every round as soon as the cell doors open they fly away get ammo and kill you and it just keeps happening. i cant even have a round its just jetpacking..

 

[Goober___]

You can rocket jump with soldier even faster. Infact, if someone is rebelling the easiest way to get them the fastest way is by rocket jumping, not charging, sticky jumping or jetpacking.

And nobody has complained about those items so how is the jetpack any different?

 

[Vick30]

And nobody has complained about those items so how is the jetpack any different?

Cause jetpacks are for reds. You dont spawn with ammo as red, you do as blue. This gives an advantage over the blues. It's an EASY way to rebel which may be troubling for guards to chase down.

 

[Vick30]

Also this may be irretating the first Days but after like a week less and less pyros will rebel cause more and more guards will adapt and more and more pyros will get bored trying to do it.

 

[Shino]

I’m just going to stop playing Jailbreak until the jetpack issue is resolved.

 

[Goober___]

Cause jetpacks are for reds. You dont spawn with ammo as red, you do as blue. This gives an advantage over the blues. It's an EASY way to rebel which may be troubling for guards to chase down.

I know it should be removed from red but people are saying it should be removed from Blu

 

[Shino]

I know it should be removed from red but people are saying it should be removed from Blu

It shouldn’t.

 

[Vick30]

I know it should be removed from red but people are saying it should be removed from Blu

It shouldn't because you can get the same speed with rocket jumping, even faster. It's just useless for blues cause it takes time to charge and recharch.

 

[Jiggly]

It shouldn't because you can get the same speed with rocket jumping, even faster. It's just useless for blues cause it takes time to charge and recharch.

Not removing it from blu does in turn mean that the pyro has to give up his secondary, mostly a hitscan weapon such as the shotgun.

Altough there are these spicy new flamethrower physics, that would make him useless in situations where reds and rebellers are stacked, and how often do you need the crowd control? Keeping the Thruster would only encourace its usage and lead to even more problems on the Jailbreak server.

However you put it, it keeps being useless for blus as with the crits, even as pyro, you barely have to do long hunts over levitation, wich then again, would counteract that tought as you will give up range with using the thruster instead of the shotgun.

 

[Lucas]

Maybe make it so that reds first need to get ammo before they can use the Jetpack?
Seems fairer than removing it entirely, I used it and it isn't as OP as I first thought.

Not removing it from blu does in turn mean that the pyro has to give up his secondary, mostly a hitscan weapon such as the shotgun.

Altough there are these spicy new flamethrower physics, that would make him useless in situations where reds and rebellers are stacked, and how often do you need the crowd control? Keeping the Thruster would only encourace its usage and lead to even more problems on the Jailbreak server.

However you put it, it keeps being useless for blus as with the crits, even as pyro, you barely have to do long hunts over levitation, wich then again, would counteract that tought as you will give up range with using the thruster instead of the shotgun.

For maps like Minecraft it could be useful for blue pyros if a red rebeller is on the walls.
imo blues should keep it as well..

 

[Jiggly]

Maybe make it so that reds first need to get ammo before they can use the Jetpack?
Seems fairer than removing it entirely, I used it and it isn't as OP as I first thought.

If it is similar to bonk etc. then you would'nt get it with ammo, but you can add zones in wich the server can give Reds weapons as such, altough you first would have to find/write such a plugin and then edit all existing jailbreak maps to include it...

For maps like Minecraft it could be useful for blue pyros if a red rebeller is on the walls.
imo blues should keep it as well..

It sure can be keept on Blu, but due to the update being so recent I just suggest to handle it with care as people figured to attack pyros as such and cause them to accidentaly freekill as they don't have the suiting secondary to deal with it.

 

[xXN00bSlayrXx]

Maybe don't remove it completely, but just make it less OP/Useful/Annoying by:

1) Increasing the Recharge time
2) Making the blast weaker
3) Make the user run 5/10% slower (lowering pyro's speed to about demo's speed)
4) Drastically increasing the holster time
5) Disabeling Bhop assist when active
6) Giving the weapon 1 charge that can only be refilled with ammo
7) Only letting the charges be refilled with ammo