Declined Make it so that the target of a vote can not see the vote.

[Deleted member 2120]

Really the title says it all. Its annoying when the target of a vote constantly dodges votes so this would be helpful to implement.

Oh and also lower or get rid of the vote wait time.

 

[Buster]

Don't display expect if the target is an admin.

 

[Osome Oli]

Will the voting sound effects still play?

 

[hey ya]

I'm unbiased against the removal of the timer between votes.

Don't take this the wrong way Cammy, but I feel like you might be a little biased against donors since you always seem to be having to deal with abusing donors.

But I agree with this, shortening is fine, but removal opens up a whole new avenue for abuse.

EDIT: I also like the idea of banning vote dodgers, but it seems a bit in a weird spot when it comes to vote kicks.

 

[Cammy]

I am unbiased against most donors, only those that are actually unable to follow server rules and abuse their donator commands I am against, which happens to be a fair few that I've come across.

I have no issue with the vote timer (between votes) being removed/shortened.. I don't care whether it's removed or not.

 

[mr_minati]

Ooouuu banning votedodgers sounds good to me.

also like the idea of banning vote dodgers, but it seems a bit in a weird spot when it comes to vote kicks.

Guess for votekicks would be an exception since they would be kicking themselves.

 

[Frootz]

something needs to be done about that because it almost makes a donors power useless and i have to call an admin to sort it

 

[Lucas]

Wasnt there something added so Vote Evading gives a 1 day ban???

 

[Frootz]

Wasnt there something added so Vote Evading gives a 1 day ban???

Not that im aware of someone has just mass frekilled and impersonated warden and got off scott free

 

[Overkill]

https://blackwonder.tf/threads/make-it-so-that-the-target-of-a-vote-can-not-see-the-vote.6894/

There is a poll here to ban evaders. Hope this was helpful.

Edit: I think one of the admin's/staff merged both suggestions.

 

[Jiggly]

You could edit this thread to an suggestion about "should evaders be autobanned", otherwise just refer to the thread Overkill mentioned.

 

[Noodl]

Evaders can made to be banned/muted if they leave during their vote - the same as having the votemute automatically be accepted.

As for banning - what's the point? If they leave during a votekick, it's the same end goal.

 

[Frootz]

https://blackwonder.tf/threads/make-it-so-that-the-target-of-a-vote-can-not-see-the-vote.6894/

There is a poll here to ban evaders. Hope this was helpful.

Thanks overkill

 

[will5023]

thing is a vote isnt always fair or necesary or some may feel it to be false

 

[Cammy]

I decided to come back to this thread to explain my thoughts behind why the "Ban vote dodgers" system shouldn't be implemented. I do understand it has a majority vote right now, and while I will not be happy with its implementation, I will accept it.

My thoughts about banning vote dodgers...


1) Abusive donators; if you dodge their vote, you get banned. You can't prove they were abusing unless you're recording every single time you connect. Leading onto

2) Recording; if you record using the in-game client, you're fucked because 60% of demos recorded on BlackWonder corrupt or crash for an unknown reason.

3) Appeals; people that are wrongfully banned because they're dodging the illegitimate vote will almost certainly create an appeal, assuming they are aware of the forum. Imagine the amount of reports and appeals that will go up with nothing to back or defend their claims because of a random false vote.

4) Administrators; there's already enough strain on the servers without adding another cog to the system. I'm sure you don't want to have to spy on random donators because they keep getting claimed to false gag/mute. There's already enough to do; Implementing this system will make your jobs harder.

5) Player base; there will almost certainly be a drop in the player base, although likely small, once this system gets implemented. It certainly will stop rule breakers, but it will also affect people that are connected to simply play; their fun is ruined by a false vote that then stops them from playing their game (in the case of Jailbreak), or bans them for an hour.

 

[Deleted member 2049]

How about also adding cancel to the person who initiated the vote? Sometimes donors accidentally vote slay, mute, ect the wrong person.

 

[hey ya]

How about also adding cancel to the person who initiated the vote? Sometimes donors accidentally vote slay, mute, ect the wrong person.

I've accidentally voteslayed the wrong person before (luckily everyone said no because I clarified it was the wrong person, sorry 7th) due to having similar names. A cancel would be excellent in my opinion.

 

[normie]

How about also adding cancel to the person who initiated the vote? Sometimes donors accidentally vote slay, mute, ect the wrong person.

That would be nice as lots of donators accidentally vote off the wrong person and they get gagged/muted

 

[Kerknor]

Well personally, I am not a fan of the vote system in general. Have seen it abused far to much by those just wanting to jump on the wagon to see someone slayed/kicked/gaged etc. With that being said, I do see the need for it in certain community's such as this. Admin/mods can only be in so many places at once and have plenty of reports to follow up on, not to mention the time it takes. So I won't harp on that at all. However I don't like the idea of the person being voted against not even knowing. The Vote system should make people feel better/safer gaming there and not looking over their shoulder. It prevents anyone from even trying to defend themselves in the case of someone abusing it. I understand the need/want to deal with those that avoid the votes, but the system shouldn't be altered to cater to them. If they are avoiding the votes, then to me they are trying to bypass the "rules" of the server and should be dealt with accordingly. My 2 cents anyhow.

 

[will5023]

Unfortunately this would be unfair as if someone was being wrongly muted they wouldnt know and knowing people in tf2 they'd almost certianly get the wrong end of the vote, declined as per poll