Completed Talking Dead (JB servers)

[mr_minati]

Does anyone here thinks this "new JB rule" should be revised or something? I'm talking about a new rule that says: No talking while dead.

This rule is really hard to enforced if there's no admin on and also people really does like to talk. We like to communicate with our mouths, even if it is to say something stupid. (I'm guilty for that).

Don't get me wrong, though. I see the good intention with this rule. It can be irritating when you're warden and dead players keep over-talking you to say whatever. But I feel like it's impossible to shut everyone up if there's no admin, unless someone could modified the game so it could automatically mute when you die.

 

[Deleted member 2120]

It should be revised, I don't know in what way, but it should.

 

[glue daddy]

I believe there should be am addition to the plugin where it mutes you after death, so you cannot ghost, chat about irrelevant things or micspam. However, people would have to use chat more often, so they'll probably spam in the chat instead. But, that will end up with a gag. Yes, I do believe this rule should be revised.

 

[Lucas]

I believe there should be am addition to the plugin where it mutes you after death, so you cannot ghost, chat about irrelevant things or micspam. However, people would have to use chat more often, so they'll probably spam in the chat instead. But, that will end up with a gag. Yes, I do believe this rule should be revised.

There is a plugin that should mute all dead people.. It doesn't work thou.

 

[Ben289]

I agree it needs to be revised. Discussions are normally quite useful when deciding things like this...

Spoiler: :p

So the new rule to me seems a bit stupid, we are basically saying that you aren't allowed to use a mic if you have died, however this causes some problems. Now as an admin, I would normally warn someone using my microphone, but now that I am dead, I can't. But then we come to the argument of, well you can warn people when you are dead if they are breaking the rules if you are an admin. What about Jim? Irish? Suicide? Console? Officer Everyone? Just a few people on the forums I could think of that aren't admin but can still warn people. But then let's say they can warn people aswell if they are breaking a rule. Then what if a lot of people are warning the same person? We over talk each other, so then we come to the argument of using chat, well, mic is the best way of doing it. Anyone who wishes to argue with me on this has clearly never played Jailbreak, if are you playing Jailbreak, you require some sort of device which allows you to listen to sound. (E.g. Headphones, speakers, earphones.). But then we come back to the !warn suggestion. Where I provided multiple different ways which an admin can warn someone, but again, mic still over does every single one of them. Members of the community still should be able to warn people the most efficient way as possible, which we have now just removed. Now sure, they can do it someone isn't rebeling, but most people know that someone is nearly always rebeling whenever possible. But what do we count as rebeling at this point? Door glitching or getting ammo? Technically still rebeling, but obviously only lasts for a short amount of time, do we immediately stop people from doing this?

There are so many variables to this rule, and so many disadvantages to it which to me outweigh the advantages of it that it shouldn't have been added in the first place, especially without consulting the rest of the admin team about it. But would you look at that, it ended in a discussion anyway. The idea clearly hasn't been thought through, which right away irritated me, then let's not consult everyone else about it. So yes, lots of salt here...

@Amy it seems we have had this rule since last month as well. Because "while dead" made the difference when muting people for someone.

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Sure, these could be justified punishment, but you actually added the variable of "while dead", which to you seems to make the difference as if you wouldn't have muted them if they are alive.

http://prntscr.com/eumoi9 I seen a bunch where sure, it was mic spam, but you literally muted someone for breaking a rule you just added for no particular reason months before you made it official. Nice rule enforcement there. I think that's actually classed as abusing your powers. Now, you have already been enforcing the rule for some time, even though it is clearly not a well thought out rule, and it wasn't even an official rule when you were enforcing it, so I think you've attempted to add it without a discussion to cover your tracks and hope people wouldn't notice. Kind of disappointed and frankly it's pathetic. This point is support by this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267259903297585153/300935510266871808/amy.png

Thanks, Ben.

 

[Wanka]

I still enforce the rule though I don't really agree with it. It shouldn't matter if someone's speaking whilst dead. As long as they're not clogging up voice chat, spamming or being obnoxious, I see no problem with talking whilst dead.

 

[RainbowRobb]

I think it should be erased until active admins can actually discuss it. I actually think this thread should be locked and that this should continue in the lounge.