Declined Report against DR. Surprise

[Lightion]

Who are you Reporting?
DR. Surprise

What is the accused persons SteamID?
STEAM_0:1:51458940

What is the report reason?
Lr denying.

Tick 20k is when i become the last alive non rebelling red, and i have beaten Obby. But he still says i have to pass through the door to get lr, which is an impossible order.

Upload any proof you have here!

Provide any links to proof here!

 

[Lucas]

You have to finish obby, if the warden says so.
So this is not LR denial.

 

[Lucas]

Okay, clarification for those that disagree with what I said above.
This was (and still is) my opinion at the time.
Since then, there has been a disagreement which would need sorting out.
The player in question cannot be punished for now, as this incident has not been clarified in the rules.

This will be sorted out, I hope as quickly as possible.
If a new rule gets added to prevent this, the player can't be punished.
If the admins decide that what this player did IS punishable, the player will be punished.

 

[Jim]

I'll leave this on pending until it's decided.

The other stance which is in favor of accepting the report entails that the order to complete obby became impossible to complete once there was a single red left. The last red completed warden's orders as best as possible but to finish he would have to suicide. It can be argued that it is unfair for the last non-rebelling red to be forced to kill them self instead of winning lr. Therefore the order of doing obby became invalid once this red reached the end of the complete-able portion.

tl;dr

Warden gave a valid order of doing obby, when there was one red left, this order should have become invalid because it is impossible to complete this obby without dying when you are the last red.

 

[will5023]

The fact he couldn't finish was not the fault of the warden but of the other Red team player who taunted and was killed for delaying. The warden never changed his orders and the red could have died to any given trap. The fact is that another red was the one who screwed up the last trap. either of them could have had to sacrifice at this trap, because it's impossible for one of them to receive lr would it not be lr denial of the red who sacrifices as he cannot finish without sacrificing?

 

[Lucas]

This post was edited, it does not reflect the past post anymore.
I will not punish Dr. Surprise for this, as I believe that the rules are what the player has to follow.
I do not see a current rule that affects this case.

Here comes the other side.
I have been gone for months, as in being an active admin.
I do not know how things are done right now, but hope to regain that information.

If any admin sees the need to punish Dr. Surpise, I will not hold it against you.
So go ahead and re-open this report and resolve it.

I will not decline it, so it is now on pending again and I will wait for an other admin to handle it.

 

[will5023]

i see no need, at the current given time there is no decisive rule about what he did, i will take it upon myself to not punish him and decline this. if the rules aren't clear on what players should do in this situation they will be changed and we have agreed to some amendments to sort situations like this