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☯ HyperRed

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Probably best to go to the police who could probably direct you from there, though I would assume they would take the necessary steps in sorting this.

It has been known that the police do deal with these type of things, at least from what I read over news n such xD
Well, I finally on summer break which means I have the time to deal with this. I'll see what I can do, hopefully the Police (as u suggested) can do something. Hard to say when it's separate states..... across boarders.
 

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The screenshots you provided could have been out of context as well. You just took single parts of chat logs and posted them. The full chat log reveals this:


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Red - Today at 8:27 PM
BTW Zoid is still planning agaisnt you and Attack. I just know he was just messaging Papa Bear trying to establish a "plan" in which he was would get rid of both of u -.-
CybuR - Today at 8:28 PM
Please fucking apologize to attack directly and I don't know how but convince him you aren't lying.
Red - Today at 8:29 PM
Uh no
CybuR - Today at 8:29 PM
This shit will rip us apart and Zoid wants us both dead, and he has green enick blufly and everyone else who jumped at the chance to piss you off on my side.
Red - Today at 8:29 PM
Zoid hates u two, Papa Bear just told him to fuck off. He was trying to talk to me about how to end u two, even though he hasn't even contacted or supported me at all.
CybuR - Today at 8:30 PM
I know he hates us
But he also hates you.
A LOT
Red - Today at 8:30 PM
Rememeber, those kids (for the most part) are almost gone. They can play Terrira all I care, there is no shit they can do to us. Unless u keep them friended.
CybuR - Today at 8:30 PM
And he isn't the best person to make enemies with at this point. Besides I want to end this shit and you continued it with your "false" treaty.
So it's your responsibility to end it peacefully
because you ripped that chance away from me already
Red - Today at 8:31 PM
I won't aplogize to Attack, I don't want to see Attack (nor hear), I want NOTHING to do with Attack.
CybuR - Today at 8:31 PM
I can't do ANYTHING anymore besides observe or jump back into it.
Red - Today at 8:32 PM
I can stand my own ground, I got rid of those punks once. Isn't hard to do it again, they tend to ruin themselves before I do shit.
CybuR - Today at 8:33 PM
He's older and smarter than you. And he has me and all of my wisdom and past experience. I hate to inform you but he isn't just some punk. He might be toxic towards a lot of people but he also has A LOT more resources than you. Begging is not normally my thing and neither is mercy. I would seriously consider what I'm saying here, because i know you think you know almost everything, but you DO NOT. And I thought the same when I was your age. And now I've realized I don't and never will.
I am usually one to put in a quick decisive strategical victory.
Ask yourself why I haven't for a moment, because I certainly could have.
As an adult you have to get along with people you don't like and even people you hate. If you can't then remain a kid for the rest of your life.
Red - Today at 8:35 PM
Attack doesn't realize, I'm determined. If I fall, then he'll come down 1 way or another. You trying to convince me to APOLOGIZE and SUCK UP TO HIS ASS, just makes me want to murder him more and more. Stop while your ahead.
Issue is CybuR, in the real world u also need to consider what is more important. Sometimes, you have to fire people who try to ruin the company.
CybuR - Today at 8:36 PM
I'm more determined than you by far. And if I lose him I'll have nothing to lose by finishing you. I would keep that in mind. I will have nothing. I will have no reason not to keep pushing until you stumble off the ledge.
This isn't business.
It isn't a company.
It isn't a game.
This is a community of living people.
You're going to let it get ripped apart.
Red - Today at 8:37 PM
You already lost him, he pushed you away. I'm just hammering down the final nail of his coffin, you need to think CybuR. What's more important to me right now? A Douche bag that I hate, or the 10 friends (or more) that want Attack GONE.
CybuR - Today at 8:38 PM
Most of those friends put a knife in my back without even listening to me.
The ones who haven't are neutral and rightfully so.
And they want neither of you gone.
Which is why I'm speakinf for them.
Red - Today at 8:38 PM
People are fine with you, as long as you don't defend Attack. That's the only reason he's been able to float for so long.
CybuR - Today at 8:38 PM
And also, I fixed my relationship. Rather easily.
Because unlike you, he'll talk things through with me if I stress the importance enough.
He's willing to reason.
Red - Today at 8:39 PM
So now your back helping him and all this shit, yeah great way to make sure this ends. By trying to slide back into the group and convince me to truce over some conspicy shit.
CybuR - Today at 8:39 PM
No.
I'm trying to end this once and for all and you're both ignorantly keeping it going and fueling the fire.
There are ways to avoid every single thing you can both do
Ways you will both do.
This will NEVER end you fool.
NEVER
Red - Today at 8:40 PM
I'm ending it rememeber, none of us have seen Attack for two days now. We've made it clear that he doesn't run APG and he's not welcome.
CybuR - Today at 8:40 PM
He's been offline with friends. He'll be back soon enough.
Red - Today at 8:40 PM
Oh this will end, when he's dead.
CybuR - Today at 8:40 PM
He was only off because Ajack recommended it
You are a fucking foolish child and you don't see the same happening to you as I speak.
Red - Today at 8:41 PM
Ajack suggested a lot things, but Attack didn't listen and decided to come on with an alt after he left.
CybuR - Today at 8:41 PM
I am trying to save you both and you both want to dig your grave.
He didn't say stay off the server permanently, and you got him perma-muted dumbass.
He can't talk on his other account.
Red - Today at 8:42 PM
I'M NOT BACKING DOWN BECAUSE YOU FUCKEN BOYFRIEND IS BEING A LITTLE WHINY ASSHOLE WHOM IS BASICLY SCREWING HIMSELF OVER AT THIS RATE.
Yeah, that's the reason we muted him. SO HE CAN'T TALK, EVER.
CybuR - Today at 8:42 PM
You're burying yourselves. The difference is he's willing to listen to me on some level.
I'll return that favor, and then I'll pull him up before he buries himself like you're currently doing.,
Red - Today at 8:43 PM
Ur just some asshole I know, do u really think I'd listen to you after you betrayed my trust and your goal is to defend your bf?
CybuR - Today at 8:43 PM
I didn't betray your fucking trust.
You started shit and tried to act like the fucking alpha wolf
Red - Today at 8:43 PM
You guys should've thought harder about your idea, before you started this.
CybuR - Today at 8:43 PM
You are a KID who needs to learn when to shut up.
You started this
You refused to end it
You continued it
ClydeBOT - Today at 8:43 PM
Your message could not be delivered because you don't share a server with the recipient or you disabled direct messages on your shared server, recipient is only accepting direct messages from friends, or you were blocked by the recipient.

He is engaging in a normal conversation about this problem you are having with him. I see no threats or anything, so the screenshot taken, was heavily out of context. So at this point I'm not sure who to believe, but all I want is for the drama not to happen on my servers, you can privately discuss your issues all you want.
 

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You realize, that some of what he put in there isn't right. He even cut out some of the stuff. Most of the conversation is on mic, he'd say "we're gonna chat and your gonna do what I say," some times I would get on which would end in arguing. So these Discord logs tell half of a story. I'll post the whole thing as much as possible, might be hard with screen size. I estimate a possible 1-5 pics of logs for it.
 

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BTW if you don't view me as a credible source, these three players were the ones that told me what CybuR was saying/doing. Even Clown Face said that CybuR messaged him on Steam saying that "Red should be murder, brutally." Please be descreate though, since they try their best to avoid CybuR's anger and hate.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198260791362/
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198134688411
http://steamcommunity.com/id/NeoBaz

Here is Terry's page, I wouldn't suggest friending him (safety reasons). But he might have a part of the story we need, if CybuR is trying to blame him for DOX. That is... if we ask him BEFORE CybuR tries anything to get him to change his testimony.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198190526078

Honestly, if Valve wasn't so lazy or hesitant at providing chat logs. It would prove everything CybuR has done/said, rather than piecing it together bit by bit. Well authorities could look at that, since they can be given a warrant.....
 

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Here is the whole thing, as I said some of this was mic and as events happened. You can see where I snapped, where I was quiet sure to point out idc how it ends either way I want nothing to do with either of them (death, blood, ban, etc.). Some of my caps, is when I'm forced to repeat the same thing and I emphasize it mores since he ignored me. If anything, this went downhill quickly for the fact that everything they tried didn't scare of intimidate me as they hoped. All it did was enrage me (1 piece was skipped part, just the video link. So it showed LINKIN PARK at the bottom of 1 then I scrolled past it and the Five Finger Death Punch - Jeckle and Hyde to the bottom of the video which lead to the top of the next picture.). Can I state that some time after I started to disagree with myself, is when the he tended to be reference as how I felt being split on the subject (wanting to remove/bury the part of me that cared then was abused time and time again). Just backfires how I can't really screenshot everything since it was before I decided to get Gyazo for evidence (bits of it being deleted before I could, such as the file. Or stuff on STEAM chat, even some stuff on mic that would've been recorded would help fill in blanks). I plan to continue to gather info, since I have a way to catch him getting cocky and record it. BTW I'm not even sure if he gets "drunk" as he states, but him acting or using it as an excuse for some of his aggressive behavior is part of the reason I also want to push away from him. All I want to do is be able to go somewhere/anywhere without CybuR following, that seems impossible at this rate.

https://gyazo.com/57fbfbe33e090b1adbc18f8f0a161252
https://gyazo.com/ed962584c0875cb0ddc8a7f62f453348
https://gyazo.com/3b02655c300098f299ffb749176622ae
https://gyazo.com/b902e9da7419119b176e86e5bda915d8
https://gyazo.com/bb101d3e34d6c768dd46c3b22618fcad
https://gyazo.com/3c41d4cc50ff004cd22e28e38adc10d5
https://gyazo.com/f6f5033fe930ef4ac19baa359f6df1f5
https://gyazo.com/0dbeb1f0d42df0701af4024fa093750a
https://gyazo.com/fbf31f36a1da562492916c94526b74d8
https://gyazo.com/07074be4a4de8671b714258be9ea4084
https://gyazo.com/1a8338ec8862020ca7ba93a8c63de90e
https://gyazo.com/8802f757e9369efe0f96e2f3a3e92289
https://gyazo.com/ec494d4d3186d72be9db3d9ecec1febe
https://gyazo.com/0c2eb41e3e0fa986dad54b0c05632673
https://gyazo.com/c7bb70e6fa87c8b655ede0d0879f8288
https://gyazo.com/116efd016fed08085d5d1d2af271f0f5
https://i.gyazo.com/3ba188f42b6d758fcc8300733e1bc7c3.png
https://gyazo.com/d996c1688ccf441ed9e3b0b3c7fe9def
https://gyazo.com/29b8a0da3ed11dab2bf09c00f342c907
https://gyazo.com/c7932676d8509bcd99ec5271f2cbfece
https://gyazo.com/ee34a2a8b563ca24145c83e7ef47e98c
https://gyazo.com/72aab12af54872894247cd33ffc0e8c3
https://gyazo.com/5e08baf2235afce34cb4795f774f5d05
https://gyazo.com/b85360f0e883b145023b785274d82d00
https://gyazo.com/f0b55445d6f6179c706f1a6803faafb2

There is the whole argument, before I blocked him and Attack ended up leaving (which ended 1 issue). I want to say this was a month ago, all of the recent attempts have been through friends or on mic (which now I have a counter to, that he knows of. So he knows to watch is tongue around me when I attempt to get the info I need). If you want anything else, those people I suggested are the only others who've actually seen the messages he's sent.
Here is some other scavenged info, I wanna see if I can get stuff from the old chats where they ran there mouths as well.

https://gyazo.com/a9e43aa735df56c0df9b2b06bd0c0420
https://gyazo.com/781e8d34774aed34b63ce7b75660dce8
https://gyazo.com/781e8d34774aed34b63ce7b75660dce8
https://gyazo.com/2374100b4198b4de433b487dbd405a96
https://gyazo.com/adf83760b7df109cb18bf3baa2dcf69c
https://gyazo.com/0e812dd322af6dc8277f8d8b1267076a
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/158669458930532352/175434087979286529/Quite_Sorry.txt
https://gyazo.com/0e812dd322af6dc8277f8d8b1267076a
https://gyazo.com/482770544279f8ce203960dd9035b6e0
https://gyazo.com/bab98e84dfc229a51c9f55129f0f562c
https://gyazo.com/fd8dfeef12808aff3e43be77ce454e2f

BTW the Erect is also nicknamed Ben (CybuR is also often called Ben), I'm working on the bits where he stated that CybuR said he talked to him and got him to support. I haven't found it since the records aren't available.... ;-;. Can I state that Erect isn't really dead, he faked his suicide that way CybuR could stop trying to message him, he even tried when there was talk that he was possibly dead. Trying to also get the KYS threats that was sent to Ein when Attack started to kinda harass, which is 1 of the main reasons I even tried to say I didn't want to tolerate Attack since he was whining over a rank that did nothing besides move people in to different channels and tried to be harsh to my friends as if it was ok.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198269042886

This is Ein, you can ask him about what Attack was doing and what I was doing to prevent the drama from increasing. At this point, Attack's actions are gone with him while CybuR has become a leader of the drama and changed the subject with his death threats (he's done more and more, ever since I was able to get his BF reported for the KYS. They both have habits of trying to threaten others and be dominant in any case).
 

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I don't know what any of these screenshots are trying to prove. It has nothing to do with our servers and doesn't rejustify the nullified ban. I feel like I'm in a kindergarten at this point. In the conversation between you and CybuR, no one wanted to admit anything, you both were just stubborn. Then you posted screenshots of people who had no idea and weren't involved in the situation and showed how you told your side of the story, which you obviously could have recapitulated in any way you wanted. Both you and CybuR seem to try to convince each others friends into thinking that the other side is wrong.
Further does it seem like you are trying to depict yourself as a hero and drama resolver, while in reailty all you do is tell more people about it, get them involved and pour more salt into the wound. The chat with Attack just proves it.
Am I in some sort of movie? We are getting all kinds of crap involved into this crap including deaths?, mute/gag/ban threats and DOX attempts. Are we really going to have huge fights over a server and a freaking video game? Is it really worth it?
If we have a close group of friends and someone disrupts the peace, it must have a reason. No one abuses a vote system for no reason. If you don't like a person in a group of friends or in a community, you mustn't show it directly to that person by insulting them or calling them out. If you find their behaviour on a server abusive, it is the wisest thing to collect enough evidence to file a report SILENTLY. No reason for calling the person out. Hate does not appear from thin air, it must have emerged from somewhere.

Either way, I've had to deal with plenty of people that thought that they were in the right, that couldn't accept any other view of things. I've been one of these people myself, but sometimes you just have to admit your mistakes. Be open minded about other people's opinion. Try to meet in the middle. All I see is uncessary stress that has been haunting everyone involved.
Both of you need to learn that there will be no real winner or loser. You broke tons of relationships and you both lost respect from different people. It's time to set your differences aside and just realize that you are all the losers of this argument.
 

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That's what I've done before, for that 1st treaty to set things at peace. I said everything I did wrong (admitted), those two got cocky and I requested that this drama was to end. Next day, Attack starts it up again and tries to blame me for it when he was the 1 who stated that "you (me), Enick, and Zoid (either Zoid, or someone else that I can't remember) should kill yourselves, Group suicide." Fine, you can call me a brat or a kid. I'm no hero, when I even went to blood lust rage when he tried to DOX me. All of these people were involved due to the other side, I tried to give them my half of the story any how (Zyper was involved since he dated Duncan, so CybuR tried to get the two of them to do shit while Duncan continued to threaten that he'd cut himself. From that point, Zyper broke up with Duncan and backed off from their group. Yet, CybuR still tries to use him as a messenger, he told me what CybuR had done about the DOX and was the one who conveyed it to me). I know that this doesn't include your server, but I'm trying to be able to go somewhere to avoid this ridiculous drama. He ended up following me here, which is the only place that can have a possible chance of being an area which I can avoid him. He really didn't care that he was banned, his response was "Oh, cute." then he went off to another server while I finally had peace. It's balderdash that CybuR has tried to follow me, server to server, just to carry out a pointless argument in which he resulted in trying to threaten my life. I called CybuR out because he exploded the chat with this drama, so I removed him from it which is why he started trying to use people and carry it on to the servers. I don't have any intent to carry this drama out, all I want is to be done with him. When he's gone, the issues he tried to start will be his own issue. The screenshots I showed, were all the things I said and did toward the start of the issue before I cut the ties in hopes to end the problem. For me, there was no way to do so until everyone stopped trying to convey stuff for them (which is why I said they needed to cut the ties, all it did is allow messenger pigeons for CybuR in hopes to carry the drama in an indirect fashion). Since it was already shown that CybuR tried to use that same chat, with a copy in paste function. It shows how he adjusted it in hopes to be a "holy savior." When all he is, is a drunk fool that wants to toy with people. He can give reasons and half truths (which might as well be lies) that justify his reason, in the end he even knows that it gives him nor anyone else the right to try and put a person's life at risk.

Anyhow, I might know a way for you to get some of the truth behind what CybuR said. He deeply cares for Attack, whom has been offline, and Attack has a irl friend that I can chat with (I get along with this player). If you were to say that "Happy The Flying Cat, Attack's irl friend, just contacted me saying that Attack admits to the DOX. He said that he was done with Red, so he tried to scare him. Terry even stated that he sent the website link to Attack, so he could use it to his free content. This means that I should ban Attack for these actions." That right there, will make CybuR change what he's said since he would realize that what he's been avoiding would lead to the person whom he has no intent to get blamed. So either he'll end up confessing as I hope, or he'll continue to blame his friend for it. If you are to watch CybuR' actions very carefully, how he acts toward you and me is very different from what he does when he thinks he doesn't need to put on a masquerade. As we speak, I've already requested a friend of mine (who's been a messenger from CybuR already) to keep an eye on him and catch him when he's not trying to fake anything. That's when you'll hear what he really does and tries to do at the moment. Can I add, that NeoBaz did admit that CybuR tried to find his address through DOX as a prank, which was supported by a ZenoFox. Right there, that is proof that he's done it and told Baz that he was.

If anyone tried to paint me as a villain in anyway, I really don't care unless it's lies and such to turn my friends (what CybuR was doing) which is who I contacted once they told me or demonstrated that CybuR had said something to them. They all want this to end, which isn't possible since they know that CybuR will end up dragging the issue on and on until either I die or he replaces me as his target with some other kid. Now that he thinks that you guys believe him, I'm deficient that he's getting cocky this second and will eventually come back here to get "supporters" if he decides to continue to drag this issue out with a larger crowd. Even if CybuR didn't DOX, he still used it to support the drama and make the whole thing worse for everyone around the community.

As I showed in that chat, some of it, everything I've been doing and have done has always been toward the same goal. Which is in a way, isolation from the problem. In my mind, drama is just a waste of breath and space. When someone tries to assault me, the only instinct I have is to get rid of them rather than give them the attention they want or be the recessive person in a group. CybuR could say that I'm trying to be tyrant, or some load of bull. I don't want control and I don't want to be anyone's mat that they trample on. As before, the only thing I care is to get rid of the problem in this case it is CybuR. I don't care how I'm viewed, how it goes, or what I need to do. In this case, all I can do is gather info and put the whole story that CybuR tries to use in his advantage. I would suggest that CybuR were to post logs of what he's said, to show that my actions are just counters to what he's up to. But I don't trust him and I know that he could easily adjust the info since he'd be collecting it. With the past I had, CybuR isn't the first one to try DOX/DDOS me and isn't the worse case. The only downfall was that in the community I was in, there was strict restrictions of it and I had a good recording software (it was a 30-day trail of Action xD). So people tend to just admit it, or someone in their group would end up telling the truth. In my case.

I don't care if I win or lose. The day that the drama ends, is the day I'll be happy for. Just at this point, I need to keep on my toes to avoid CybuR's drama as he continues to join each server I'm on (he did state it once, that he continues to follow me because he thinks I'm "scared" of him). When in all reality, I just want the issue to end rather than slap some sort of temporary solution like the attempts to put things a peace or treaty. I tried to put a peace between the group, but when they push their luck and make things worse. Then the peace is broken, which is what happened 2-3 times in total. I tried to avoid the drama and stop the spread of the issue (why I contacted people whom he talked to, in hopes to rally them. I even warned some to be cautious, since it would be soon that CybuR would already try to convince them), so it can't be said that I tried to keep friendship bonds. In the end, it showed who I could and couldn't trust. It also showed people's true personalities such as Duncan, the only people I really lost were one's who ended up make the drama worse with CybuR = Duncan and Attack. People can look down on me or say I'm an idiot for this whole issue. I know what I believe to be true, what I hope to do, I have nothing to hide nor do I want to waste others time to pick away at what I have. I'm putting the whole problem, here and now, rather than your accused trying to pull it back bit by bit to drag out the argument. As always, I'm sure I lack something in records that would've been beneficial or didn't go in depth with something. Just let me know if he tries to pull something else up, that I haven't already stated, and I'll do my best to put those records up as well. As he says at this point, this argument is what justified his reason for threatening me. He must've known that I would eventually gather the info, which is why he sent it to others in private chat and why he would use mic to say it rather than a public chat. (that's why I added those STEAM links, since their the only one's who've seen the threats typed out since he used them. I know that their testimonies won't be much, still worth a shot rather than giving up).



I would've put this in private, if I'm sure how to do that..... I do apologize though, that this is in a public chat which might cause some issues... Could you message me? That way the private chat is set up? Or do I need to do some crazy things, where I have to go through some things to establish it? Or am I just being stupid and there is a simple way to do it, such as adjusting this threads settings?......
 

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Click on the users avatar then click "Start a Conversation" whilst on this post, guessing BlackWonder's
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Click on the users avatar then click "Start a Conversation" whilst on this post, guessing BlackWonder's
Xenforo is weird imo.
Oh, ok then. Thank you, plus the other moderator just started the private conversation. Yeah, the forums setup is different from the last 1 I used. But that was a Minecraft one, a cheap website at that xD.
 
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