I've never seen you in deathrun too.
And if you were also used to play on this server, why didn't you notice the problem ?
And yes, the map is often played, You should know that because you said that you played regularly on the server.
It's because I've started getting busy, causing my activity to go downhill. But before that I was very active on blackwonder. During the times I was active dr_simpsons wasn't played that commonly. I'm 100% sure, even Wesz confirmed it. So how could I notice if blw barely played that map. I'd still like to fix maps in my free time though.
That's not what I'm doing ?
I expose the problems.
What I meant is talk DIRECTLY to deathrun players. For example
@Wesz @suwi @Adveno and I could ping a few more but I think you get the point. Instead of making choices immediately and posting a thread to get the map deleted, once again this post was a decision for the entire community not just you. Get some opinions of other people first. Just discuss about it. I do it all the time when I work on fixing deathrun maps.
That's a good question I'd like to know the answer. But they do bother farming points.
. That's why a lot of people are using /place.
Am I right ?
This argument is invalid players care about the points. And even if nobody cared about it, that's not a reason to let players keep doing this.
What are your sources for such statement? Just because you say many people farm point without any sources that makes my argument invalid? Because my argument sounds very reasonable to me. If they see top players at A WHOPPING 1.5 MILLION POINTS who would even try to get that many points?? I'm still sticking to my opinion that nobody cares about other people wasting their time on virtual numbers.
Then tell me how ? I expected an answer but I will have to wait.
I thought it made sense, but ugh I guess I'll have to explain it. Blue does shooty shooty and button goes activate then bhopping scout goes AAAAAAAAAAAAHH. But if there are no weapons blue goes runny runny then hit button but then the runner is already gone so then he goes:
But in all seriousness, as I said before weapons will make blue much more effective due to the ability of being able to activate traps from a distance. It will help blue catch reds who rushed a trap with bhop. So there is no need to chase the player. Also keep in mind that +use being disabled (and I am not requesting it to be enabled now) is a HUGE disadvantage for blue. Because +use is yet another efficient way to blue to play the game. Gosh this makes me realize how hard blue is nerfed on this server.
Solved by removing the Map or to update it. But by the time everything is done. It is more responsible to remove it before putting it back with an update.
I don't see the necessity of maps needing to be removed. The problems are not that game breaking. And besides, you literally admitted to this map being played a lot, to counter one of my earlier arguments, but how would deleting this map make the server more enjoyable if this map gets voted often? I'm not going to take the cap of that all players are point farming. I'm not believing that.
Because remember when you said this:
Also I find that you seem to get very upset after someone who tries to find a solution to a problem. Maybe my solution is not the best. But I try to make the server enjoyable for everyone as I can. I'm not doing this for my personal pleasure as you thought.
For if you haven't noticed. I am the solution. Only not if no one ever tells me. Which is why I told you earlier to directly talk to the deathrun community about your concerns on a particular deathrun map. If you do that, your words will eventually arrive in my dm's and I can take care of it, or talk with the map creator what I just did.
Then if my argument is invalid. We are waiting for you to fix every maps with your mapping knowledge of course. I didn't say it was impossible to do because of our lack of mapping knowledge. But just that it would take too long.
Who else do you see editing deathrun maps efficiently other than me nowadays? When someone brings us a _blw version of a map it always comes somehow broken, even in visuals. Be thankful that I'm spending my free time on it.
I don't get what you're meaning. A player like suwi who plays day and night to farm points is totally fine. But a player who exploits to get points easily by playing a map not made for this server is unfair and not fine.
So you define picking fight frequently as exploiting? That it gives many points does not mean directly that it is exploiting. I've talked to Suwi just now and even he agrees with me about this point. Picking fight frequently might be the best way to give hope to players that want to be among the top players, because if you see that the number one player has 1.5 m points, then we can both agree that it will feel hopeless. You really must have a lot of dedication if you still feel like getting that #1 spot.
I think my arguments are better than someone who just says "You want to remove the map only because you dont like it"
This makes me question whether you have really read everything I said or not. In all that text I've typed, I've said much more than what you described in the quoted text. My arguments are also way stronger and more reasonable than yours. I've talked about this thread with a few players (including non blw players) and they did not find your arguments strong or convincing. So it's not just me with that opinion. I don't want to call any names but also a Blackwonder mod agreed with me about this. AND I am not just a "someone" I am known among all big deathrun communities, I know a lot about deathrun and I'm even more skilled than Suwi!
Also I find that you seem to get very upset after someone who tries to find a solution to a problem. Maybe my solution is not the best. But I try to make the server enjoyable for everyone as I can. I'm not doing this for my personal pleasure as you thought.
I am not upset, I am only very concerned about people not appreciating older deathrun maps enough. Nowdays, it has become a standard and a priority for deathrun maps to have a lot of parkour. I know that a lot of older deathrun maps that are fun to play have been forgotten over time. Parkour has simply hijacked deathrun. I find parkour maps fun but it does not belong in deathrun. In fact in my opinion parkour maps deserve to have their own game mode because not everyone is into platforming and parkour. If you make an older style deathrun map today then you probably have to explain your self why your map is so boring and why it has no parkour + 6 traps rather than 20 traps as a deathrun map should have. I've played deathrun for years and have always had a lot of fun in both parkour and non parkour maps. I did not just build up skill over that time, but also knowledge. I know what I am saying. That's why I did not stop countering your arguments in this thread.
That's a solution to fix the map, and also, it would be necessary to not allow a player to pick the same minigame every round. That's where the problem comes from.
A solution I can think of is making the door that leads to the ending room automatically pick an ending once a player enters it. But that's definitely not the first solution I would pick.
I wanted to remove the Map from the server to prevent people from exploiting and then put it back with an update.
I explained this before but I don't really see the necessity of it. I wouldn't really call it exploiting but that's just my opinion.
I'm sorry if that conversation got out of hand
Nah don't worry about it we are just endlessly countering each others arguments. It's normal in this world.
Played dr_simpsons once
it was fun
no remove pls
Oh and for if you haven't learned yet, reply to me and you'll get a 10x longer reply back.
