Spottedleaf
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they're skilled yes but pre aiming and ONLY pre aiming when a player is going to be there is suspicious enough then actually looking at the wall at 16000 and only peaking to kill when the sniper moved out is evidence enough to me as well as the other evidences in the demo that they're hacking. plus we still have kerks to come. this wont hurt our servers in the slightest because it's 1 our opinion of several admins at least twice vs one person. especially when the player is as toxic as they are.
and okay 4000 > 6100 sure the player peaked but the fact that after that kona only aims in when the sniper looks to be moving out is what is suspicious here
8000 there is NO way of knowing where dell is in relation to where hide is unless he can see precisely where hide is, dell could be near the spawn, near the stairs down to intel, near to grate etc.
8400 once again ONLY aiming in when they start to move out that is clear to me they dont aim in randomly any other times unless someone looks to be moving out
and 16000 he's literally looking at the wall and only moving out when dell looks to move out.
On 2fort, there are generally only two main angles for snipers to peak. Two sides of battlements. It is not a very unreasonable strategy to leave the other side uncontested, especially since in this case Kala covered himself from the other angle. It is not that hard to pick examples where snipers were pre-aiming other snipers, especially given how predictable they can be (slow peaking, never changing position, etc). You must prove that this player is peaking where it is UNREASONABLE, CONSISTENTLY. Otherwise you are not necessarily correct.
How toxic the player is does not matter in the slightest when checking if the player is cheating. If evidence is given, the matter can be less of opinion and more of "what did the player do"
Yes 4000-6100 looks odd but the timing of the spy kill can make it reasonable. If I were to be on the other side and I see that go down, I will peak because against unskilled players that is generally an advantage. Why would I not take it? The sniper will have to move his crosshair, and I will have peaker's advantage. That puts me in favour of getting a snipe.
But this is a potentially skilled player. So they've likely dealt with this situation before.
8400 was never mentioned as a tick. I will look at that and edit this post.
EDIT: 8400 is the same tick as 8000. My reasoning in 8000 applies to 8400 exactly.
My reasoning for the tick at 8000 is solid. The soldier died on battlements to a sniper, and the shot was heard to the left. It is not unreasonable for someone to assume that there is a sniper top-left battlements. Especially since the scout died at top left battlements.
The soldier could not have gone far into the base as I correctly stated, he just jumped up there. The timing for your locations DO NOT match up.
You need to remember that when dealing with skilled players THEY WILL take factors like these into account. Even if they are not 100% guaranteed, they are very likely and that will give them an advantage.
For 16000, this is one instance. It can easily be luck. Snipers will tend to move back and forth on an angle because when they come back to peak it gives them the peaker's advantage. I agree the timing is odd but this is one shot. You need to rule out luck as a factor. Anybody can do that if they're lucky. But repeatedly....? Different story.
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However, I watched the entire demo. I found at 16000, he had already known Dell was there due to a previous encounter. So that makes him holding the angle a lot more reasonable. You need to remember that he peaked and Dell was visible, and then he went into cover and then re-peaked. It's likely he saw Dell and prefired.
Finally, in all instances brought up Kala is looking at top left battlements. Perhaps he only wants to look there? Or that those snipers tend to hang around there?
I move the tick back a bit so you can see from the beginning. It actually starts around 8900. (When she kills From Under The Bork Tree)
Ok I will look at that tick as well and edit this post.
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This shot was prefired
I also edited my post for tick 16000
However, since there were snipers who were peaking that angle in a brain-dead fashion - I can see reason for prefiring in case someone is around the corner. There were two snipers contesting that angle, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume one may be holding it. You should also consider Dell was spotted by Kala before he prefired. I don't see prefiring that angle under the assumption Dell is holding it as unreasonable.
For example, at 11800, "From Under The Bork Tree" is prefired because he is holding the angle without changing position. Note this the exact spot mentioned in 8900. If a sniper is not changing position, you can easily prefire them because they are predictable. It is not unreasonable to Kala that prefiring the position would result in a kill.
Since this demo is only 4 minutes and there are not many examples I don't think this evidence is conclusive.
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