In jailbreak I have seen wardens decide to do theater/kitchen right at the start of the day when there is 15+ people alive on red. This usually results in the game lasting so long that no one gets lr. In my opinion we could do what we did with cell wars with this and take it so that there can only be X amount of people to play the games. I would say 5-6 people or under to be able to play those 2 games. It just get really annoying to play one of these games at the first of the round and then no one gets lr. This is just what I've experienced so I might be full of it. Thanks for listening to my 2 cents.