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Declined Suggestions-o-rama

Discussion in 'Archive' started by ɥʇǝɐɹᴉɥ, Nov 30, 2016.

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  1. ɥʇǝɐɹᴉɥ

    ɥʇǝɐɹᴉɥ Notably Dangerous

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    Suggestion nº1;
    Forum colours for donators.
    Why;
    Easier to distinguish the donators from the other plebians players.

    Suggestion nº2;
    !calladmin.
    Why;

    People who don't have access to Discord (hehe, me) and believe calling an admin on the shoutbox is too slow (it is) could use this command to, hopefully, get a reaction from an admin sooner. Yes, you can votekick rulebreakers as a donator but that doesn't always work, does it?

    Suggestion nº3;
    Deathcams (with fast re-spawn) [Trade Server]

    Why;
    Right now, the re-spawn time is instant which is fine, I have no complaints about that, I'd just like to be able to taunt people after they die which, let's face it, is a Sniper main trope.

    Suggestion nº4;
    Bigger size forum avatar .gifs.
    Why;
    Because most .gifs I could find are >50 kb and I'm getting tired of my current avatar, to be honest.

    Suggestion nº5;

    Discord colours for donators.
    Why;
    Easier to distinguish the donators from the other plebians players.

    Suggestion nº6;
    sm_votetempban for donators.
    Why and how;
    Now, before I get showered in "oh but it'll be abused" comments, let me explain; first of, it'll be limited use, be it once per day, once every two days or once per week, that way, it'll only be used properly (maybe). Secondly, demand a demo or evidence from the donator who started the vote; if proof isn't provided, it's abuse (most likely) and therefore punishable by removable of donator rights or a temporary ban.

    Suggestion nº7;
    Special unlockable colours (!store).
    Why and how;
    Add a couple of colours (could be unique colours, don't have to be) that are unlocked through kills with the weapon itself. Example; Golden Bazaar Bargain (no, I'm not biased) - unlocked with 2'500 Bazaar Bargain kills. Rainbow Ambassador - unlocked with 1'500 Ambassador kills, etc, etc.
    You could also buy them with credits (maybe? ehhh).

    Suggestion nº8;
    Dark mode for the Forums.
    Why;
    They're a tad too bright and a dark mode preference (able to choose between the two, of course) would be a nice.

    Suggestion nº9;
    In-game Radio.
    Why;
    Because Chrome is a whore and eats all my RAM and having an in-game radio, be it with random songs from an online radio, would be preferable to losing FPS because of a browser.

    Suggestion nº10;
    Ability to reset your score.
    Why;
    Would be nice to completely reset your score (wins/deaths) whilst in-game. [this is not about hlstatsX, just your scoreboard score.]

    Suggestion nº11;
    Multiple Trade maps & sm_votemap for Donators [Trade Server].
    Why;
    A little diversity in the maps available would be nice.

    Suggestion nº12;
    Ability to choose your tag colour.
    Why;
    Not talking about the Donor/Admin tag but the tags you can buy from the !store (Pokémon Master, I play too much, etc..)


    Thanks for reading.
    - P.
     
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  2. Lucas

    Lucas A crow Staff Member

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    You can call admins that are online with @[message] in team chat as far as I know.
    Still a good idea because people keep using !calladmin anyway... even thou it doesn't exist...
     
  3. Ben289

    Ben289 Ben Junior Staff Member

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    Suggestion 1: Personally I don't see the point in it, you shouldn't need to know who is a donator or not and it was no purpose to improve what the donators get, as quite a few of the donators probably rarely even use the forums.

    Suggestion 2: There are a few other options apart from discord.

    (If you didn't know about it, Discord have a browser version: https://discordapp.com/)
    Add the admins so you can just message us when you need an admin, I think all admins have there forum profiles linked with steam profiles anyway.
    Or
    Use the shoutbox on the forums.

    Call admin can easily be abused by players as they will call admins about the smallest little things and/or spam it, and if they are so bothered and annoyed about it, they should be able to make the effort to come on discord, add an admin or use the shoutbox on the forums.
     
  4. ɥʇǝɐɹᴉɥ

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    In response to Lucas;

    !calladmin is to be used to call an offline admin. If an admin is online, you do not need to use !calladmin.

    In response to Ben289;

    1. I use the forums and I'm a donator: having a somewhat personalized colour would be a nice thing to have, but true, not necessary.

    2. I cannot access the Discord server because I am banned, not because I'm using the Windows application

    2.1 I don't add random people, and I personally think that adding admins just because you want to use them from time to time to deal with a rule-breaker isn't a very nice thing to do.

    2.2 As I said, the shoutbox isn't that fast and most of the time, the rulebreaker has enough time to fuck everything up and just leave, no punishment. Yes, he gets punished after, but he won't know why and most people just come back after the ban time without noticing anything happened (not everyone plays TF2 daily).

    2.3 If !calladmin is abused, punish people who abuse it.
     
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    Ben289 Ben Junior Staff Member

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    Rules are made for the idiots who break and it's essentially the same with privileges like !calladmin if enough people abuse it, it will just become a pain for admins to deal with and would be removed because of the pain to deal with it. Also, what !calladmin does, it message all of the admins unless it's done from the web, which at the moment, bene doesn't seem to have time doing. So we can't do the web version, so we would probably have to use chat, so all in all you should just message an admin to join, none of us mind.
     
  6. MiyukiMouse

    MiyukiMouse Swiss Knife

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    Donator perks are for the servers only.
    I have talked to Benedevil about !calladmin and we have 160+ servers now I think, so it will be a pain in the poop if people type it without needing. As chance will be bigger with the amount of servers Benedevil has. But I don't think the option is off the table, if enough admins do vow for trying it out and see how it goes, then it might be added, not sure though.
     
  7. Timo

    Timo I watch you sleep c: Staff Member

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    We had a calladmin over at blueprint. Admins rarely used it and the abuse/spam was way too much. It wouldn't really be worth it.
     
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    Zeprus Uncharitable

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    How about allowing admins to pick the servers they want to receive calls from? About the abuse thing: Make it bannable.
     
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    Timo I watch you sleep c: Staff Member

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    We did make it punishable. Didn't change anything. Also one problem was that when you responded a bit too late, the rulebreaker would be done already and get away unpunished. No evidence from the caller whatsoever. No idea if it was a justified call or not.
     
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  10. ɥʇǝɐɹᴉɥ

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    - Added two more suggestions.

    also bump, maybe? B)
     
  11. MiyukiMouse

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    I've been thinking if there is a way to make a votesystem in the !calladmin thing. Let me explain:

    Someone types "!calladmin [player] [reason]" and then it requires 3 people to type "!votecall" so it goes through. Then it goes through to something where we can sign up to get a message allert or steam message.

    I don't know if that's possible to script but if so, I think I would like to sign up to get allerted.
     
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    Onto your new suggestions, I haven't to much experience with trade servers, but I guess we could set a vote up about it to see if people would actually want it?

    Now the gifs for icons may cause a few issues, for a start, forums can be quite heavy on a server, especially if we add things like Gifs, however that depends on what @Benedevil@Benedevil has going on, so he might want to answer that. However, I would enjoy it.
     
  13. ɥʇǝɐɹᴉɥ

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    - Added three more suggestions (5/6/7).

    bumpity bump bump B)
     
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    This could be helpful instead of just a cosmetic thing.
    When a player can't reach out to an admin (which doesn't happen a lot), that player would be able to see who is a donor so that donor can mute/gag/kick the person that is breaking the rules.
     
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    Suggestion 5: This is the same as donators getting forums tags, doesn't add any extra value to getting donor, the only thing I could really think of for this is maybe they get some special commands for the music bot unlike normal players or maybe a text and voice channel that only donors could access.

    Suggestion 6: It has been discussed before, and I doubt everyones mind would be changed. Donators could easily abuse and misjudge a situation, making this more of a pain for admins to deal with that the issues it would solve.

    Suggestion 7: Could be quite a nice thing to have and would be fairly original to do, but I would assume it would take quite a while to code which is one thing Bene doesn't have at the moment, which is time. However, I do agree it would be quite fun.
     
  16. ɥʇǝɐɹᴉɥ

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    - Added two more suggestions (8, 9)

    bumpity bump bumparoo
     
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    Suggestion 8: I assume that would depend upon these guys more than Bene: https://www.dohtheme.com/

    Suggestion 9: http://hive365.co.uk/ - Even use the web player or there is actually a plugin allowing it to be added to Source Games
     
  18. ɥʇǝɐɹᴉɥ

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    - Added three more suggestions (10, 11, 12)

    bumpity bump bumparoo
     
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    Suggestion 1 and 5:
    Anything related to donator colors would perhaps in some way be useful, but it's a real pain for me alone to keep track of people who are still donators and who aren't

    Suggestion 2
    I'm looking into options on making it a donator only thing, that's the only way I'd be willing to implement the system.

    Suggestion 3
    Would not be smart to implement now, since a lot of people will complain and it also just destroys the flow of the trade server

    Suggestion 4
    I think I increased size recently, can someone test it out?

    Suggestion 6
    Most donators will not be able to use it responsibly, even if you ask for demos, I'd just be removing donator rights left right and center

    Suggestion 7
    Would need to write a big custom plugin, which I don't think is worth it right now considering I have way way bigger projects to attend that will increase our player base by a lot.

    Suggestion 8
    I'll look into this at some point, I need choose colors for every forum element, which might take a while

    Suggestion 9
    You can play any song on soundcloud with /sc <songname> which is in my opinion sufficient. Most radio stations that provide plugins such as hive365 or fragradio are pretty shit.

    Suggestion 10
    Hm... Maybe, I'll think about it

    Suggestion 11
    Welp, minecraft neon is the player magnet, I might run a high risk of losing the player base if I add more maps

    Suggestion 12
    It's too minor to consider now, but I might add it in the future
     
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  20. ɥʇǝɐɹᴉɥ

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    In response to Benedevil;

    Hm, I understand.
    Well, the reason I wanted !calladmin to be able to use for everyone is because donators can just record a quick demo and then kick the rule breaker until an admin acts; if there is no donator online, the rule breaker will be able to roam until an admin checks the report and takes the adequate action.
    Alright.
    It's still 50kb, just tested it out.
    Alright, no problem.
    Alright.
    Alright.
    Oh, !sc is for songs. Alright, thanks.
    No rush.
    I understand.
    No rush.
     
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