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Declined points sytem

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What instance causes you to lose 40 points?

If it's dying to someone, that means you have a LOT more points than the one that killed you.
Easiest way to not lose 40 points? Don't die.
 

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The alternative is that points simply become a measure of playtime which we already record and link to every player's stat profile.
 

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To be honest, to maintain your point total, you only need around 10~ kills per life, assuming each kill gives you a base of 2, plenty of bonus points get awarded, there's the killstreak bonus on death, and assuming you lose 40.

Many players probably fall into a range of <10 K/D. Points are a measure of skill. If a player can reliably achieve over 40 points per life, which really isn't that hard, then points become a measure of playtime. Performing reliably requires a semblance of skill.

Moreover, TFStats is not a Jailbreak focused system. It's universal. It's designed such that every point value, modifier, floor/ceiling limit can be disabled or changed for any individual server. Ben has just never done so.

If you can't gain ranks, get good. You need to be a better player than those above you.
 

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simple that if you lose 40 points on jailbreak, then don't play jailbreak... To me, it seems fine.
Broboy is not a Jailbreak player, he plays Zombie Fortress. Hagvan touched on the issue the current system causes with that game mode in his thread before he apparently gave up and took it down. ZF acts like a horde mode, vaguely similar to how MVM works, with medics generally throwing themselves at heavily fortified bases with only their melee weapons. Even the best zombie players can die three or four times before killing a survivor, and even if they manage to take out a nest of four to five engineers single-handedly, they've likely lost 150 points accomplishing that feat. If Hagvan is to be believed, this has led to the higher ranked players just giving up when infected, not something you want on a team that relies on it's strength in numbers. Disabling the penalty for dying to a lower ranked player as a zombie will still discourage dying but won't punish higher ranked zombies for playing the game.
 

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Here is some sage advice if you are hoping to lose less points.

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Broboy4803

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Disabling the penalty for dying to a lower ranked player as a zombie will still discourage dying but won't punish higher ranked zombies for playing the game.

maybe make it like 10 or give the new player 40 points but not subtract 40 points to the player that died
 

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also there's a lot of people looking at this thread of me being triggered about the point system
 
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