For CHRIST SAKE- BUFF ENGIE IN HIGHTOWER X

[Monke Mann]

Bro its impossible to play engie on this map- the only class weaker than you is medic bro.

- All the "buffs" are either mid tier- or just flat out doesnt work.

- Half of engies primarys cant even shoot

- the only good one of melee is the hand- which gives u barely anything health wise compared to other classes health stats
- bro. the wrangler- short circuit- and pistol do jack shit scaling wise
- hell- You know its a problem when an entire engie nest of 8 people can be take down by one spy spamming m1 with a kunai because engie has jack shit damage wise and defense wise

Heres some ideas that might help-

+ A weapon stat that gives engie high jump or faster moving speed
+ A weapon that doesnt shoot but makes sentries stronger and/or deal more damage
+ fuckin anything tbh cause engie has practically nothing.

 

[Chris TCC]

x1000 is not meant to be balanced. The original idea behind it is you take the weapons, multiply their stats by a thousand, and there you go. Some weapons are utter garbage and unusable, while others become god tier that way. Engineer just seems to have a lot of weapons which aren't affected by the x1000 multiplier.
On top of that, the config used is quite old and pre-jungle inferno, possibly pre-meet your match, meaning a lot of the stats we multiply are from older variants of the weapon.

 

[Monke Mann]

x1000 is not meant to be balanced. The original idea behind it is you take the weapons, multiply their stats by a thousand, and there you go. Some weapons are utter garbage and unusable, while others become god tier that way. Engineer just seems to have a lot of weapons which aren't affected by the x1000 multiplier.
On top of that, the config used is quite old and pre-jungle inferno, possibly pre-meet your match, meaning a lot of the stats we multiply are from older variants of the weapon.

for 1. Thats not true at all that its JUST x1000 multiplier when eureka effect just makes your sentry useless
2nd. if that was true- guns like widow maker would actually work
and 3rd. Im not asking for balance bro. Im asking for playability. all you can do as engie is die. All it takes is one guy entering spectate- exiting- going as any other class- and hell kill you. with no way to counter this- playing engie is legit: You leave spawn, you die. You leave spawn quietly, you get spectated and killed. At least give engie some kind of buff or just unnerf his widow maker or eureka effect- or hell- even just something that gives him something to combat any other class

 

[Chris TCC]

guns like widow maker would actually work

In what sense? The way I understand it is it takes 30 metal a shot. multiply that by 1000, means each shot would take 30000 metal, which you wouldn't have.

eureka effect just makes your sentry useless

How? I haven't used the eureka effect, so I'm not sure what you mean with "makes your sentry useless"

 

[Monke Mann]

In what sense? The way I understand it is it takes 30 metal a shot. multiply that by 1000, means each shot would take 30000 metal, which you wouldn't have.


How? I haven't used the eureka effect, so I'm not sure what you mean with "makes your sentry useless"

oh cmon. even if its one shot- considering rescue ranger is one shot too- we basically have no good primarys besides base shot gun.

And eureka effect legit unbuilds all buildings. so thats just fun.

 

[Butlër]

Modifying the stats of the weapons from base game, besides the gamemode specific x1000 would ruin the purpose of said gamemode.
The reason these weapons behave like this are exactly because of what Chris said before, it's each weapon stat multiplied by 1000.

Things in this gamemode are either OP to oblivion or useless to hell, no inbetween and that is the way it's meant to be.

 

[Monke Mann]

Modifying the stats of the weapons from base game, besides the gamemode specific x1000 would ruin the purpose of said gamemode.
The reason these weapons behave like this are exactly because of what Chris said before, it's each weapon stat multiplied by 1000.

Things in this gamemode are either OP to oblivion or useless to hell, no inbetween and that is the way it's meant to be.

still cringe af that engie is the most nerfed bro

 

[Butlër]

Take that up with Valve. They're the ones that made those weapons and those stats.