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Declined Waka Flocka's Gag appeal

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Waka Flocka

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User name: Waka Flocka

What is your type of punishment?
Gag

What is your SteamID?
STEAM_0:0:42469166

Who has punished you?
Vick

Why were you punished?
So Someone posted a report thread on me claiming i was racist and harassing here it is https://blackwonder.tf/threads/report-against-gpg-waka-flocka-flame.15734/ So Admin Vick reads this and immediately sides with him so i have a talk with him explaining that i doubt i was racist and 2nd the harassment part is probably true but only because the other person was harassing 1st and being toxic i told him to look at the chat logs for proof of this and he said it doesn't matter because you synced to his level so he's basically admitting that he won't do anything to the other person and let him be free when he does the same actions that i did and my case is different because i'm actually defending where as he is attacking all of this is in the logs any admin can see it here's a small portion of the discussion me and vick had and you can see he's being lazy to further investigate


{GPG} Waka Flocka Flame: u said you checked the logs right
{GPG} Waka Flocka Flame: so check the stuff above what i said?
Vick: Yes
{GPG} Waka Flocka Flame: i'm 100% sure the person was also talking shit and harassing
Vick: It is your own fault for responding in that manner
Vick: I also suggested that you should make a report on him
{GPG} Waka Flocka Flame: no i was defending my self as i said i have alot of enemies on that server they're just salty that they lose in mge and run there mouth
{GPG} Waka Flocka Flame: why can't you check the logs to see what the person said before what i said?
Vick: Theres no reason to defend yourself in that manner
Vick: cause it doesnt matter
Vick: it was your logs
Vick: your resbonsibility
{GPG} Waka Flocka Flame: ok can i talk to the owner please i'm sorry but you're not experienced to know the situation properly no offense


If you want the entire chat log let me know

Why should we revoke your punishment?
This should be revoked because it's obviously false and the Admin Vick is biased and judges too fast all he had to do was look at the logs which he said he did and scroll up a little and you'll see a guy attacking me and he just ignores it he should of been gagged that person instead of playing favorites anyways this is why i want to ungagged thank you for your understanding
 

will5023

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like vick says, your logs, your responsibility. when we look at chat logs we ONLY see yours. the report in question was done anonymously so there is actually no possible way he could have known WHO you are arguing against. we judge what we see and from looking at your chatlogs even if there is a section missing on/ around the day of the report (18th feb) if i go back to the 15th feb you say "tfw when a faggot leave the areans cuz he's a pussy" "nigga sandwich u already left like a pussy fuck off " 13th feb "i hope u die and burn in hell bitch " too much now so ima just do pictures. in my eyes a 3 day gag is fairly lenient and i'd have done longer. vick acted fairly and without bias in this situation. IMO gag should stay.
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Waka Flocka

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like vick says, your logs, your responsibility. when we look at chat logs we ONLY see yours. the report in question was done anonymously so there is actually no possible way he could have known WHO you are arguing against. we judge what we see and from looking at your chatlogs even if there is a section missing on/ around the day of the report (18th feb) if i go back to the 15th feb you say "tfw when a faggot leave the areans cuz he's a pussy" "nigga sandwich u already left like a pussy fuck off " 13th feb "i hope u die and burn in hell bitch " too much now so ima just do pictures. in my eyes a 3 day gag is fairly lenient and i'd have done longer. vick acted fairly and without bias in this situation. IMO gag should stay.

What do you mean when we look at the chat logs we only see yours you're telling me you can't scroll up to see what caused this? Stop posting a bunch of screenshots of what i said in defense when you're not even showing the people doing the same thing that caused me to say that in the 1st place you're doing a horrible job painting a picture like i'm the bad guy without showing what caused this you're just like vick and honestly you should be ashamed i'll just wait the 3 days gagged but now i know that you people play favorites and always side with each other even when you're wrong. You know in your heart that there are logs of people doing the same thing and you just ignore it anyways as i said already i'll wait the 3 days since you are too stubborn to understand the truth
 

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Firstly, look at the screenshots. It clearly only shows YOUR chat. We don’t even know who this mysterious other person is so how are we meant to magically find their logs to know what you two were arguing and being toxic over.

Secondly, those screenshots aren’t in defense of Vick as he has nothing to defend, those screenshots are further proof showing his actions were justified in what he did.

Thirdly, you haven’t actually bothered to give us the name of the person you accuse caused all this and haven’t even tried to defend yourself

Fourth,how can we play favourites when the original report was done anonymously?
 

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Hello waka,
I hope you are having a fine day, even though there is this unfortunate situation happening.

It is not looked nicely upon, when a player goes to many different admins trying to get them to remove the punishment from you, instead of making a punishment appeal, as these are here for a reason.

What do you mean when we look at the chat logs we only see yours you're telling me you can't scroll up to see what caused this?
Do you know how many messages are sent on a server in a given day?
It takes a VERY long time to get to a specific date in the data that we have since there are over 500.000 entries for the specific server in question.

If you can tell us the SteamID(3) of the person that made you react in such a way, we can check the chatlogs way easier.

With kind regards,
Lucas
 

Waka Flocka

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Firstly, look at the screenshots. It clearly only shows YOUR chat. We don’t even know who this mysterious other person is so how are we meant to magically find their logs to know what you two were arguing and being toxic over.

Secondly, those screenshots aren’t in defense of Vick as he has nothing to defend, those screenshots are further proof showing his actions were justified in what he did.

Thirdly, you haven’t actually bothered to give us the name of the person you accuse caused all this and haven’t even tried to defend yourself

Fourth,how can we play favourites when the original report was done anonymously?



of course the screenshots only shows my chat you made it that way on purpose to show that i'm the bad guy i can post screenshots showing only 1 person it's not hard you did that to show i'm the bad guy intentional as i explained to you already what i'm saying is scroll above the stuff i said and there'll be another guy doing the same thing that is shown in your screenshots that is how you get his name from my understanding the person attacked me and got upset when i defended so he made a report and then you guys check the logs looked at only my name calling him out AFTER him already talking s*** which is also in the logs and your're purposely not showing it to show i'm the bad guy

this is an eg of what you are doing

L 02/27/2019 - 13:54:38: "{GPG} Waka Flocka Flame<4><[U:1:84938332]><Blue>" say "stfu cookie monster head ass?"


and then you go "O YA THIS REPORT IS RIGHT HE'S HARASSING PLAYERS


and this is what you should see the truth

L 02/27/2019 - 13:52:26: "Bobby Johnson<4><[U:1:84938332]><Blue>" say "lol waka you a bitch banana head ass?"
L 02/27/2019 - 13:54:38: "{GPG} Waka Flocka Flame<4><[U:1:84938332]><Blue>" say "stfu cookie monster head ass?"

as you can see i'm not really harassing i'm defending all you guys have to do is look in the logs carefully for the person not that hard
 

will5023

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https://tfstats.tf/player/982985 this is where i got your logs from. it shows your logs and ONLY your logs. how can we even know who to look for if you dont tell us. how can we have a bias against you when we dont even know you.

i just went through all three servers you've been on and it would appear it wasnt recording chatlogs for around 5 days starting on the 15th-20th . your little argument happened on the 18th, this means that all the chatlogs on that day dont exist. thus we will have no record of your argument ever having happened with whoever it happened with.
 
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Waka Flocka

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https://tfstats.tf/player/982985 this is where i got your logs from. it shows your logs and ONLY your logs. how can we even know who to look for if you dont tell us. how can we have a bias against you when we dont even know you.


I Own a server to check logs of everyone chatting on the server go to the tf/logs in Filezilla i doubt admins have access to the serverfiles though so you may want to talk to the Owner BeneDevil so he can see the truth
 

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The HDD that ALL chats are exported to, it went down for approx 7 days, then took some time for the millions of lines of chats to be copied to the new drive. I do know that the day in question fell within this time frame. Sure, they may be in Filezilla, but I won't be bothering Bene to retrieve those.


I adjusted your punishment to be more fitting of your logs. Thank you for asking us to review them.
 

Waka Flocka

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The HDD that ALL chats are exported to, it went down for approx 7 days, then took some time for the millions of lines of chats to be copied to the new drive. I do know that the day in question fell within this time frame. Sure, they may be in Filezilla, but I won't be bothering Bene to retrieve those.


I adjusted your punishment to be more fitting of your logs. Thank you for asking us to review them.

Lol you are just being a bitch at this point lmao you don't understand anything about being an admin at all good luck with your future child
 
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