Festive Steve H Oswald said:

the Sandman. The weapon's mechanics had been the same for a very long time, and now Valve was going to be changing it up because it isn't "competitive friendly." I personally do not really like competitive games and I feel like all these nerfs and removal of things unique to TF2 purely for the sake of balancing them for just a singular (dead) game mode, so this gave me an idea for a game mode.

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spacedude997 said:

Hey, it`s a good compromise.
Also if this stupid shit

is able to remain open then this should too.

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Aegeus Dusk said:

There already is damage fall off by default with TF2, at least with a shotgun. Without crits it does like 3 damage from like far range, with crits it does 16 or 32

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Cammy said:

Might as well give my piece since I'm back.

Guard crits are REQUIRED, it's way too easy to rebel in general. One inattentive guard is enough for a Scout, Sniper, Spy, or even a Pyro to slip away unnoticed. The easiest way for you to not get shot as a Rebel is to try a little thing called Dodging, and also be aware of your surroundings so you don't walk face-first into a BLU.

Applying falloff to the BLU team's critical hits will make it so much harder to deal with long-ranged rebels, such as Snipers, Crusader Medics, Soldiers etc. This will add a sort of meta-class for the BLU team as they WILL need classes that can deal with various rebels when they do pop up.

I can't even see low-pop Jailbreak (10 or less players) benefiting from this from a RED player's perspective, and a BLU player's perspective, let alone a full server.

Critical hits in general should not be changed in any possible way; more to the point it should be made a noted statement that it is not a debatable subject, as Aegus suggests.

While this may be the most recent thread related to it, it's always been declined and (with the way it's going in the polls) will be declined again.


Feel free to shit on what I've said, my Jailbreak is excessively rusty, although I believe I still have enough general knowledge to give a statement towards it. I am also aware the Jailbreak plugin was updated, and the creator of said plugin is somewhat active here.

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spacedude997 said:

Hey, it`s a good compromise.
Also if this stupid shit

is able to remain open then this should too.

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Cammy said:

Might as well give my piece since I'm back.

Guard crits are REQUIRED, it's way too easy to rebel in general. One inattentive guard is enough for a Scout, Sniper, Spy, or even a Pyro to slip away unnoticed. The easiest way for you to not get shot as a Rebel is to try a little thing called Dodging, and also be aware of your surroundings so you don't walk face-first into a BLU.

Applying falloff to the BLU team's critical hits will make it so much harder to deal with long-ranged rebels, such as Snipers, Crusader Medics, Soldiers etc. This will add a sort of meta-class for the BLU team as they WILL need classes that can deal with various rebels when they do pop up.

I can't even see low-pop Jailbreak (10 or less players) benefiting from this from a RED player's perspective, and a BLU player's perspective, let alone a full server.

Critical hits in general should not be changed in any possible way; more to the point it should be made a noted statement that it is not a debatable subject, as Aegus suggests.

While this may be the most recent thread related to it, it's always been declined and (with the way it's going in the polls) will be declined again.


Feel free to shit on what I've said, my Jailbreak is excessively rusty, although I believe I still have enough general knowledge to give a statement towards it. I am also aware the Jailbreak plugin was updated, and the creator of said plugin is somewhat active here.

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