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Chanka

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User name: Tachanka

Name
Tachanka

Your Age
17

Location
Bosnia & Herzegovina, Bihać

Your SteamID
STEAM_0:0:175915027

Have you managed servers previously? No

Which servers have you previously managed? None

On what servers do you usually play on? Jailbreak EU
Achievement engineer/Idle/Trade EU (one server, forgot the name, I can add an IP if needed)

Why would you like to become an admin? I have noticed a steady drop of players in the community and TF2 in general, some of my dear friends left due to toxicity and I others are wanting to leave because of that same reason. As much as I enjoy this community problems are visible, people complaining about beggars, scammers etc. on trade servers, rule beakers on jailbreak, racists etc. These individuals can be taken care of but sadly it happens often too late. By the time an admin arrives due to people complaining the damage is done. If we could have more admins (that also happen to know what they're doing) we can help decline the amount of said issues.

Do you know and have spoken to any of the current staff members? Yes

If you do know and have spoken to any staff members, please tell us their names will5023 (I have spoken to him the most)
Overkill
Wanka (probably doesn't know me)
Jim (mostly questions about a few details in the rules)
DuckLurch
(I only started talking more to people in the recent weeks so my list is small)

When are you usually available to play? (until the end of august due to holidays) 18:00-23:00 (normally when I have school) 20:00-22:00 Mind you these numbers change because of real life events

Please give us your ideal way of punishing players, specific to the game modes you play General rules:

Racism > warning > 1 week gag/mute > permanent gag/mute ( I have almost no tolerance for this type of behavior)

Voice/Chat spam > warning > 1 hour gag/mute > 1 day gag/mute > 1 week gag/mute > permanent gag/mute

Player disrespect > warning > second warning > 1 day gag/mute > 3 day gag/mute > 1 week gag/mute > 1 month gag/mute > permanent gag/mute

Exploiting > warning > 1 hour ban > 1 day ban > 1 week ban > 1 month ban > permanent ban

Foreign language in chat/over comms > explain to the person he/she has to use English ( I speak fluid English and Bosnian, very basic German) > 1 hour gag/mute > 1 day gag/mute > 3 day gag/mute > 1 week gag/mute > 3 week gag/mute > 1 month gag/mute > permanent gag/mute

Voice changer > warning > 1 hour mute > 1 day mute > 3 day mute > 1 week mute > 3 week mute > 1 month mute > permanent mute

Innapropriate spray > warning > 1 week spray ban > 1 month spray ban > permanent spray ban

Innapropriate objector > warning > 1 week ban > 3 week ban > 1 month ban > permanent ban

!Calladmin abuse > warning > 1 day ban >1 week ban >1 month ban > permanent ban

AFK > move to spectator > check if still AFK in 10 minutes > kick

Admin impersonation > warning > 1 week ban > 1 month ban > permanent ban

Calling out admin > warning > 1 day gag/mute > 1 week gag/mute > 1 month gag/mute > permanent gag/mute


Power abuse:

Donor abuse > collect evidence, warn other staff > once abuse is confirmed warning > permanent ban with donor status removed (if it is a small violation, 1 month ban with the agreement of other staff and Benedevil)

Admin abuse > collect evidence, speak to Benedevil > ask to remove admin status


Hacking/Hacking related:

Hacking > collect evidence, consult other staff, if proven to be hacking permanent ban

Hack advertisement > permanent ban
(I have zero tolerance for hacking or anything related to it)


Jailbreak rules (all previous rules and punishments apply):


General:

Ghosting > warning > 30 minute gag/mute > 1 hour gag/mute > 3 hour gag/mute > 1 week gag/mute > 1 month gag mute > permanent gag/mute

Last red/guard alive delaying > warning > give permission to ghost

Delaying > warning > slay

Overtalking admin during mic check > warning > 1 day mute > 1 week mute > 1 month mute > permanent mute

Sticky trapping > warning with order to safely detonate > 1 hour ban > 3 hour ban > 1 week ban > 3 week ban > 1 month ban > permanent ban

Latespawn > slay > (if continues to latespawn on purpose) 1 day ban > 1 week ban > 3 week ban > 1 month ban > permanent ban

Camping in unreachable area > warning with slay > 30 minute ban > 1 hour ban > 3 hour ban > 1 day ban > 3 day ban > 1 week ban > 1 month ban > permanent ban


Blue team:

Freekilling (less than 3 reds) > slay with warning, revive dead red/s > 1 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Accidental freekill (less than 3 reds) > (if given proper reason) slay, revive dead red/s > (if lied) 3 day teamban > (if previous actions happen again) 1 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Mass freekill (more than 3 reds) > slay with 1 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Accidental mass freekill > slay with warning and 30 minute teamban> (if lied) 1 month teamban > (if previous actions happen again) permanent teamban

Overtalking warden > warning > second warning > 1 hour mute > 3 hour mute > 1 day mute > 1 week mute > 3 week mute > 1 month mute > permanent mute

Inaudible/Bad mic > warning, move to red team (may return to blue team once mic is fixed) > 1 day teamban with warning > 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Not being with warden > teleport to warden with warning > slay with 30 minute teamban > 1 hour teamban > 3 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Button griefing > slay with warning > 1 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 3 day tamban > 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Armory camping > warning > second warning > slay with 30 minute teamban > 1 hour teamban > 3 hour teamban > 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Baiting/Force baiting > warning > second warning > 1 day teamban > 3 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Team kill > warning with slay, revive dead blue > 1 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Accidental team kill > slay with warning (if given good reason no further action needed) > (if lied) 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Favoritism > slay with warning > 30 minute teamban > 1 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 3 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Teaming when FFA > warning > second warning > slay with 30 minute teamban > 1 hour teamban > 3 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Chasing after rebels with no permission > warning with an order to return to reds > slay with a 30 minute teamban > 1 hour teamban > 3 hour teamban > 1 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban



Warden specific rules:

Illegal FF > disable FF, slay with 1 hour teamban, revive dead players > 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month
teamban > permanent teamban

Illegal minigames > explain the minigame is illegal with a warning > (if the warden persists with the minigame) slay with 30 minute teamban > 1 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 3 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Not willing to play warden (illegal !uw) > slay with warning > 1 day teamban > 3 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Warden hogging > slay with warning > 1 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 3 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Lying > slay with warning > 1 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent
teamban

Giving tricky rules > warning > slay with 30 minute teamban > 3 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

No repeat > warning > second warning > 1 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Renaming > warn > slay with 30 minute teamban > 1 hour teamban > 1 day teamban > 3 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban

Not being with reds > warning (if given a valid reason why no further action needed) > (if lied, or not given a reason) slay with a 30 minute teamban > 1 day teamban > 3 day teamban > 1 week teamban > 3 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban




Red team:

Freeday abuse > warning > second warning > slay with 30 minute ban > 1 hour ban > 3 hour ban > 1 day ban > 1 week ban > 3 week ban > 1 month ban >permanent ban

Ammo glitching > slay with warning > 1 week ban > 1 month ban > permanent ban



Trade servers:

Scamming/Sharking > gather evidence, permanent ban

Begging for items > warning > second warning > 1 day ban > 3 day ban > 1 week ban > 1 month ban > permanent ban

Advertising paid raffles > warning > 1 week ban > 3 week ban > 1 month ban > permanent ban

Spamming random trade requests > warning > 1 day ban > 3 day ban > 1 week ban > 1 month ban > permanent ban

Is there any other information you would like us to know about? Why are the punishments the way they are? Because I use a shock collar training technique, give plenty of punishments and the person will get the mindset of no matter where he/she does it I might be watching and getting ready to give a punishment. Why are there permanent bans at every rule? Its a last resort, but a resort I will turn to if needed. My bans? I have one teamban (1440 minutes) given to me by Irish fox for denying LR, I didn't pay attention since I was on my phone and didn't figure out the red got LR and didn't have to AFK freeze.... An idiotic mistake My toxic behavior? I can change, I already am. Some of you might have seen my post about my behavior (https://blackwonder.tf/threads/to-explain-my-behaviour.12908/). Since then I've been on a steady change for the better, I don't drink that much anymore and (mostly) got out of my depression (again). My people skills aren't that great but I can be more professional if needed. Any previous applications? No, I attempted once but gave up as I mentioned in my ''To explain my behavior...'' post. But I'm ready now, I'm usually a responsible person so admin responsibilites won't be a challenge. And a special thank you to will for the moral support :3

Edit 1 (17th July) Clarified the rule ''Chasing after reds as warden'' changed due to Jim not being able to understand the rule

Edit 2 (17th July) Removed the rule ''Chasing after reds as warden'', a mistake on my end as I was told by multiple community members how this rule exists

Edit 3 (18th July) Wrong placement of rule ''Chasing after rebels with no permission'', moved from Warden specific rules to Blue team rules

Edit 4 (18 July) Wrong comma placement under ''On what servers do you usually play on?'' (an unneeded correction in my opinion, nevertheless it was fixed)
 
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You don't know all the rules, first thing I see wrong at a glance is
Chasing after rebels with no permission/Chasing after rebels as warden > warning with an order to return to reds > slay with a 30 minute teamban > 1 hour teamban > 3 hour teamban > 1 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban
 
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As far as I know @Jim you're not allowed to chase after reds as warden, or at least that's what multiple people told me...

Also thank you for feeding me false info >-> https://blackwonder.tf/threads/rtd-rules-in-jailbreak.12984/

Edit: you're not allowed to chase after rebels (and move away from the none rebelling reds by doing so)
Also why is this comment awaiting approval? This is my application dammit
 

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As far as I know @Jim you're not allowed to chase after reds as warden, or at least that's what multiple people told me...

Also thank you for feeding me false info >-> https://blackwonder.tf/threads/rtd-rules-in-jailbreak.12984/

Edit: you're not allowed to chase after rebels (and move away from the none rebelling reds by doing so)
Also why is this comment awaiting approval? This is my application dammit

Everything you just said is wrong. Warden can do what he wants within reason, including chasing rebels. RTD was not allowed to be used while it was on for however long and there is no rule saying you have to stay with non-rebelling reds.

-Support
 
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you can chase after reds as warden it's just not necessarily the best course of action and usually you should send a guard to go and chase the rebellers.

you've definitely put a lot of thought and effort into the app and while some of your punishments arent necessarily what we give at the moment if you were accepted you would soon sort that out as many of us have done in the past, a lot of people do seem to believe warden cant leave reds which seems to be misinformation hovering around servers at the moment so i wont blame you for that although you could have checked the rules to double check.

i think depending on other areas of your in game profile such as chat logs or punishments you've received that (going from my thoughts having read your app) you would potentially do well as an admin. you ask questions and are polite when you've asked for assistance before.

i dont remember ever giving you moral support other than you asking if you should make an app and my reply being if it's open then sure after saying i dont remember who you are. but that was a while ago and i can see you've put effort and thought into most areas of the app.

I'll go ~NEUTRAL for now, depending on anything else that may come up such as punishments we may find about on other communities or things in your chatlogs.
 
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I'll go ~NEUTRAL for now, depending on anything else that may come up such as punishments we may find about on other communities or things in your chatlogs.

Just a quick heads up I'm not on any other communities, Blackwonder is the only community I play on.
But I will say that I got a gag years ago in my early days of TF2, I was screwing around on a Deathrun server and I insulted the admin because... well I was younger and dumber before. I believe it was the Panda community
 

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Also regarding the rules and punishments this is my way of punishing and even though I have looked at previously accepted applications I have made my own version because....well... this is my admin application, its supposed to represent me and my ways of dealing with rule breakers (above all else)
 

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Hi.

Chasing after rebels with no permission > warning with an order to return to reds > slay with a 30 minute teamban > 1 hour teamban > 3 hour teamban > 1 week teamban > 1 month teamban > permanent teamban
I hope you edited this part in the wrong category by accident or I'll take your "representation of you and your ways of dealing with rulebreakers" in a whole different meaning. This entire punishment shouldn't exist for the warden, wardens can chase rebels if they want to. This punishment should be for and only the guards.

Hack advertisement > permanent ban
(I have zero tolerance for hacking or anything related to it)
Generally speaking, you are supposed to permanetely gag users who advertises cheats. Ban them when you know they're cheating and when you have evidence of it.

I don't think I have ever seen you once in a game so I'll go by your application. Your application was decent where I can definitely see effort in it however with a few misconceptions of the rules and punishments. Though I wouldn't be surprised if people start complaining about how you were to wrongfully punish them for things that were never in the Rules; Fix these issues and I may reconsider.

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I hope you edited this part in the wrong category by accident or I'll take your "representation of you and your ways of dealing with rulebreakers" in a whole different meaning. This entire punishment shouldn't exist for the warden, wardens can chase rebels if they want to. This punishment should be for and only the guards.

Yes that was a mistake on my end, wrong category, will be fixed shortly.

I don't think I have ever seen you once in a game so I'll go by your application. Your application was decent where I can definitely see effort in it however with a few misconceptions of the rules and punishments. Though I wouldn't be surprised if people start complaining about how you were to wrongfully punish them for things that were never in the Rules; Fix these issues and I may reconsider.

1. No, you haven't seen me in-game, ever
2. I doubt most of you managed to get the rules and punishments correct on their first time
3. This is my first time making an admin application, or should I say an application in general
4. Everything can be fixed, I might not know the exact punishments or even all of the rules but given with time I can learn them (or just have a list next to me with the rules and punishments)
5.I'm eager to learn and I can be very cautious with my punishments, there is always room for improvement
 

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Just to add a couple more things...

I can understand getting angry at times; we all know that jailbreak is a cesspool of frustrating situations. But there's a certain degree of anger (or slanderous intent) to which I personally think an admin should not be able to be pushed into, and the [BlackWonder LA | Jailbreak 2018-05-04 20:18:12 mark that theyre fucking mentally stupid.] goes past that for me.
(this was taken off mark's admin application, I hope you do not mind mark)

If anyone is worried I am this type of person, think again. I was years ago when I had anger issues but with some self motivation and correction I have changed.

From what others told me in real life (older relatives 20-60 years) I am intelligent, hard working, and I don't let myself get angry over smaller things... I'm not trying to brag by saying this nor am I lying, the worst thing I could do is lie my way to victory (becoming admin) its against my own morals and I'm not that type of person.


you've definitely put a lot of thought and effort into the app and while some of your punishments arent necessarily what we give at the moment if you were accepted you would soon sort that out as many of us have done in the past,

From what I've noticed a good number of the staff didn't get the rules done right on their applications as well and yet they seem to be effective and fair with their punishments because they learned the correct procedures on a later stage when they became admins

What also irritates me is that no one is asking me questions and are judging solely based off the application itself...
 

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Howdy Tachanka! I hope you are having a beautiful week. It is nice to meet you!

Firstly, you don't appear to have any punishments from other communities and you have no vac bans. Additionally, your rep.tf is clean. These are all things we prefer when evaluating applicants. Good job with that area.


If anyone is worried I am this type of person, think again. I was years ago when I had anger issues but with some self motivation and correction I have changed.
Unfortunately, your chatlogs paint a different picture. You have called people a cunt, a couple of times this month already. Along with some racism and other insults.
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From what I've noticed a good number of the staff didn't get the rules done right on their applications as well and yet they seem to be effective and fair with their punishments because they learned the correct procedures on a later stage when they became admins

The individuals who this is true for, handled criticism with a level-head and simply adjusted their punishments on their app OR defended their reasoning.

What also irritates me is that no one is asking me questions and are judging solely based off the application itself...

I am sorry you feel this way, but there is no practical way to schedule interviews, so we must rely heavily on the application. This is especially true when few admins are friends with the applicant(s).


On the admin team, we have people collaborating from multiple continents at any given-time. We have a colorful background of individuals with plenty of room for different personalities and cultural differences. We are able to manage this successfully due to the level of respect the majority of us have for each other. This is where the difficulty comes into play with your app. I do believe that you have tried to change as you stated, but I believe you need more time before joining a team such as this, right now. Some of the things in your logs are just too recent, if someone had reported some of these things today, we would still have to punish you for them. For these reasons, I regret to inform you that we must decline your application at this time. I do hope you continue to grow and that you enjoy your summer!

-Rainbowrobb
 
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