There are too many freekillers on the server and people that don't know basic rules of the gamemode,
no admins are there sometimes to help to team ban the people which do not have mics and are not active when we have these problems. It makes the players very fustrated and we have to turn on friendly fire just to kill the guards that are freekilling everyone, please help to make the server better.

I hope you understand the situation.

Also, allow us to turn friendly fire on when we say that Reds have to afk freeze in the first place since that rules holds back alot of people.

PyroPoot said:

There are too many freekillers on the server and people that don't know basic rules of the gamemode,
no admins are there sometimes to help to team ban the people which do not have mics and are not active when we have these problems. It makes the players very fustrated and we have to turn on friendly fire just to kill the guards that are freekilling everyone, please help to make the server better.

I hope you understand the situation.

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Make reports on them, turning on friendly fire isnt always a good idea because a red can kill another red while someone tries to kill a freekiller

Jiggly said:

Also, allow us to turn friendly fire on when we say that Reds have to afk freeze in the first place since that rules holds back alot of people.

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You shouldn't turn friendly fire In the first Place at all. Unless you're playing cellwars or meatgrinder.

This thread has been made Before so i'll give you some tips when It comes to freekillers.....

- You should Always try to report these freekillers. You can report using a demo or a video. both Is fine as long as it provides enough evidence for admins to take action.
- You can go to discord and click on #reuesthelp. There you just call for help and provide the ip for the server you are playing on. Usually, that is the fastest way to get them.
- If you have an admin as a friend that Is a huge advantage cause that Is the fastest way to get them. (Unless they're busy, away or just offline)
- You can also Contact the admins via the forum. The admins will respond but not as fast on discord or steam as not everyone has their internet browser open everytime. (I have xddxdxd)

I also wanted to quickly adress you that admins do have Lifes and are not bots that check the server 24/7. If no admins are on then that usually means that they are somewhere else and that you shouldn't spam them to come as that could annoy them.

I do appreciate that you were nice about it.

Vick said:

You shouldn't turn friendly fire In the first Place at all. Unless you're playing cellwars or meatgrinder.

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Hence why I ask for permission to do so, sometimes turning ff on to get rid of freekillers can prevent more chaos opposite to when you don't.

Jiggly said:

Hence why I ask for permission to do so, sometimes turning ff on to get rid of freekillers can prevent more chaos opposite to when you don't.

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I could agree on that one but what about unexperienced wardens. Do you just tell them to turn friendlyfire on and risk more trouble? No, I dont Think you should tell anyone to do that.and all. Others will copy your behaviour and do the same. This will cause even more trouble. People are doing this cause no admins has adressed that "rule" clearly. They are also doing It cause they've seen YOU do it. They've seen my FRIENDS doing it and as i said, you are helping them do the wrong thing.
I dont need to tell you what would happen If some new warden would try doing that.

My Point is that you shouldn't risk it.

EDIT : As threnshold said, you are still a rulebreaker for illegaly turning on ff.

Honestly if you turn on FF to kill a freekiller, you are just as bad as a rulebreaker in my book.

just voteslay and be done with it.

Threshnold said:

just voteslay and be done with it.

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Not everyone can voteslay, only donors.

Threshnold said:

Honestly if you turn on FF to kill a freekiller, you are just as bad as a rulebreaker in my book.

just voteslay and be done with it.

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xXN00bSlayrXx said:

Not everyone can voteslay, only donors.

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That, you basically suggest that you may waste entire maps on the server to freekillers when no admin/donor is available.

Vick said:

I could agree on that one but what about unexperienced wardens. Do you just tell them to turn friendlyfire on and risk more trouble?

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Those "inexperienced Wardens" as you call them will turn ff on regardless of the rules anyway, so that doesn't really matter does it? It atleast gives the chance for some people to play the game "normally".
Also, read everything, I suggest to allow it and nowhere did I say that people should be currently doing it.

I mean, turning on FF is going to most likely kill prisoners, you are adding fuel to the fire. If he is continually free-killing you have ways to stop them. you can record them doing it and report it. (Which i will admit, it does take a while for admins to process the evidence.) that will make sure that the rulebreaker cannot do this again.

I have been on discord with you a few times i think. I myself am a donor, so you can add me or any other admin and id be happy to get on immediately and help the situation. there is a lot of different ways to solve a problem. it can be frustrating, but the rulebreaker WANTS to make you angry, thats why he is doing it. if you feed into him, its going to make it a lot worse.

I hope i was able to help.

Threshnold said:

but the rulebreaker WANTS to make you angry

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That't not a given neccesity, think of newbies trying to play jailbreak like arena.
Recording often ain't do it either as they might aswell switch the server once they receive a ban (wich they really won't care about) and as you said it only leads to reports wich result in bans issued when the target is most likely not on the server anymore.

I withnessed many instances in wich a freekiller could be handled by flashing ff on and off whilest using a shotgun to quickly dispose of said one where no reds even got the chance to react, sure, mayby someone was randomly swinging his melee at someone with a crit and killed him, but I still feel as some kind of "last resort" like this should be allowed in atleast an grey area.

Even if me and my friends report, nothing will happen. They just stay on blue team without mics and kill us for 5 straight rounds untill they get team ballanced... I know that turning FF is wrong but it is the only way to keep the freekillers from killing everyone, the admins are usually not on here and there is nothing we can do about it..
I'm going to record some videos when i find them doing it, so i hope that helps as well.

You could ask a donor (if someone is there) to mute them. Muting automatically kicks them off BLU.

Jiggly said:

I suggest to allow it

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It can be abused. Those inexperienced wardens could take advatage of it if that rule gets added. And as I said, we shouldnt risk it.

I hope this can help.