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Declined Admin Application from Dee

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Dee

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Member Name Dee

Name Dee

Contact Information

Your Age
16

Location Belgium, Flanders

Your SteamID STEAM_0:1:74045561

Other Information

Have you managed servers previously?
Yes

If Yes, which ones?
Disc-FF; been an admin for Deathrun for about 6-8 months there
MultiPhrix; was an admin for maybe 1-2 months (not sure) left just before it closed

Why do you want to become an admin? Well, pretty much like everyone else applying, I want to support the community as much as I can. I want to aid other admins protecting the servers from rulebreakers and punish them accordingly. Just like any other admin.

Are you familiar with admin commands? Yes

Do you know any of our current staff members? Yes

If Yes, please tell us the their names.
Ben
Weebix
Grizzly
Lucas(/Crow)
Mother Russia(?)

Please tell us when you usually play and are available. (CET)
Monday+Thursday: 16:30-19:30 20:30-22:00
Tuesday 15:40-19:30 20:30-22:00
Wednesday 14:00-19:30 20:30-22:00
Friday+Saturday 15:00-19:30 21:30-01:30
Sunday 15:00-19:30 20:30-22:00

These are estimates! It might deviate depending of when I wake up, when I eat lunch/dinner, when I go to sleep or when I an unavailable because of homework or an activity.

On what servers do you usually play? Jailbreak occasionally on one of the x10 or Deathrun servers

Please give any other information you might think is useful for us to know. I have a mic, which I frequently use on Discord and on the servers. I only play on the European servers. I mostly play on the European Jailbreak server. I can speak Dutch (even though I prefer not to do on mic).

How would you go about punishing a hacker/spammer/simple rulebreaker...etc.?
Hacker: Gather evidence, if enough evidence -> Permaban
Advertising Hacks: Gather evidence, if enough evidence -> Permasilence

Chatspammer: Warn, if ignored -> gag for 60 minutes
Micspammer: Warn, if ignored -> mute for 60 minutes

Freekill (JB): Slay+warn, when continued -> slay+teamban for 60 minutes
Mass Freekill (JB): Slay+teamban for 10080 minutes (1 week)
BLU Teamkill (JB): Warn, when continued -> slay+teamban for 120 minutes
Griefer (JB): Warn, if ignored -> kick (description: Griefing)

(EDIT1: Minor changes)
(EDIT2: Making the post a little bit less white)
(EDIT3: Changing punishments)
 
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Wolfi

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you're active on discord
you know the rules
you are active on the server
good chat record

good punishment section
Negatives
the application is very plain and not much effort was put into it
you aren't active on forums

I would like the give my +support but I honestly would like you to make your application a bit more detailed
 

Grizzly

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Pros:
-Active on Discord.
-Previous administrator experience.
-Decent amount of known admins.
-Lots of time available.


Cons:
-Very little done to the application.
-Punishments are very lenient, mass freekills are usually rewarded with up to a week teamban.
-Generic answer to "Why do you want to become an admin?".
-Forum activity is lacking.


Verdict:
I'm going to go
neutral for now. While you have the right attitude to become an admin, I feel this application was very lazy and that reflects what kind of attitude you'd have as an admin. Should you be declined, look at the cons I have listed and try to get rid of them. Good luck!
 

RainbowRobb

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This application seems very rushed. And some parts of it doesn't even make sense.

" Well, pretty much like everyone else applying, I want to support the community as much as I want. I want to aid other admins protecting the servers from rulebreakers and punish them accordingly. Just like any other admin."

I saw you in game a couple of times, and was not overly impressed or unimpressed.


--Support, for not taking the time to proofread your application. We need thorough people, as there are over 150 servers.

You took the time to go back and make thorough edits and it is appreciated.


I think your post about admins on discord was an ill-informed post made out of a lack of information as to how we admins communicate.

Also taking into account @Tomato Kat 's post.

-Support
 
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Dee

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This application seems very rushed. And some parts of it doesn't even make sense.

" Well, pretty much like everyone else applying, I want to support the community as much as I want. I want to aid other admins protecting the servers from rulebreakers and punish them accordingly. Just like any other admin."

I saw you in game a couple of times, and was not overly impressed or unimpressed.


-Support, for not taking the time to proofread your application. We need thorough people, as there are over 150 servers.

I see what you mean, don't know how that happend. It should've said can instead of want, anyway thanks for the feedback.
 

Lucas

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  • Dee is a nice person and he is active on jailbreak.
  • He knows the rules and he follows them.
  • Active on discord
  • I like the way he edited his application.
Basically, you are a nice person dee and I wish you Luck on your admin application.
 

Jim

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I would be NEUTRAL -Support because even though he follows rules and knows them all he has a tendency to slip up and/or get overeactive in certain situations
 
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Moku

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Neutral I feel like he earned it but he can act a little bit more immature sometimes, though.
 
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tomato.kitty.tf

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Taking it from the other admins it seems you're active on Discord and on the servers.
Your application looks good... though you had to edit it three times which i personally find unprofessional.

You're not active on the forums.
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(just one report)

Your attitude on the forums (lately) has been kind of unsuitable for an admin. Check 'Admins on Discord' & 'Moku's Admin Application' for more information.

This does not help either:
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-support

good luck with your application.
 

Console

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Time to Pros and cons

Pros:
+Active on discord and the servers
+Knows some staffs
+Good admin application
+You are nice

Cons:
-Isn't active on the Forums anymore
-Only made 3 reports
-will 'teamban' a mass freekill for 1 week




Going neutral for now but learing towards -support -support
 
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Dee

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Update time!

Concerning Katz profile comment:
I have never commented on Katz's profile, it was not me.

My theory is that someone made an account with my name and photo outright impersonating me and made this slanderous comment in order to defame me. Tell me, why would I, knowing that Katz was an admin, make such a useless and idiotic comment when I never have even talked to Katz or have ever seen him on TF2. There's no evidence that this 'Dee' making this comment was me, I know this an easy way out, but it's the only way I can legitimately say that his evidence is insufficient. Katz if you could show me evidence that this 'Dee' we are talking about is actually me (by viewing the comment and to which it redirects to) and it showed that it came from my account then sure, you are right, but this evidence does not exist because the comment was conveniently deleted by this mysterious 'Dee'.

Concerning my recent discord suggestion:
I hate the suggestion I made, I hate the replies I made and received on it, and honestly I just want it to stop and be closed. It was a pretty horrendous suggestion and if necessary I would like to apologize for alienating admins (in case I actually did). I have a tendency to like keeping things in order, labeling everything I can see and putting everything in it's own pile. I also have some anxiety problems.

Lasly concerning my activity; I go on the forums everyday but I don't make a post everyday. I know my activity is 'lacking' but keep in mind that I am on the forums about 2 hours a day just browsing and doing nothing productive. Lately I've also started making more posts and threads, some of which are pretty good (i. e. Add numbering to server names) and some of which are not so good (Admins on Discord and my post on Moku's Admin Application). I also don't make a lot of reports because:
  1. I have donor and I can votepunish people where most of the time a votemute/gag of 30 mins is enough according to me.
  2. I don't really like making reports as they take a lot of work.
(Also I've made 3 reports not 1)
 

Dee

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They take alot of 'work'? How IT is alot when you only need the name steamid the reason and the proof?

It's my opinion, also a lot of the time whenever I try and make a report Copy or someone else makes a report before I even had a chance to go on the forums. They are dedicated to making reports, I am not.

Also I would love to add you on steam to discuss things further.

EDIT:

For all those saying that making a report doesn't take a lot of work I digress. First you have to gather evidence, this usually takes about 1-2 mins though some demos can sometimes take about 5 mins to make, I don't record every time I start playing nor will I ever do in the near future. Then you've got to find the suspect's steamid and this is a real pain. Sometimes the suspect has changed his name so you won't be able to find him, sometimes his name is extremely simple (for example 'U2') and it will take me an hour to browse through steam trying to find the suspect, sometimes nobody I know has the suspect as a friend, nevertheless this process is painstakingly long, so this is about 3-20 mins. And then finally I write the report which takes about 1-2 mins.

So that's about 5-30 mins to make a single report (that is if the suspect hasn't changed his name or the suspect's profile is painstakingly hard to find because his name is very simple), meanwhile other people can do this in less than 5 (and sometimes they even make the report before I had a chance to start), I envy the speed that these people have because when I try to make a report it always takes me just so long to make it (which doesn't even mean it will automatically be accepted which has happened once before) and then you get a situation like this on your admin application and yeah, it sucks. But why make a report if I can already votemute and gag for 30 mins which most of the time is enough of a punishment? Or why should I make one if someone else on the server, more dedicated to making reports, makes the report in less than 5 mins, if it takes me most of the time a lot longer to make a report? There are enough alternatives for me rather than using reports.

I suppose, if reports is all that admins want in order of someone to be 'active' or a 'good' member of the community, then why do admins even exist? If we can just make reports which would help us become admin then why have admins in the first place, they'll get punished anyway? Welp, I think I've created a paradox now (if admins wouldn't exist then why would anyone want to become an admin by making a lot of reports if they can't become admin because admins don't exist?). Of course abolishing admins would be a highly-idiotic thing to do and of course admins have a purpose in their existence (monitoring servers and punishing those who break rules), so why base the 'goodness' of a person on whether or not they make a lot of reports or not? Maybe they ask admins to join, maybe they have donor and can votepunish people, maybe there is already an admin on the server, etc.

TL;DR: For me there is not really an incentive to make a lot of reports as they take a lot of time (at least for me), I think there are enough other methods of getting the suspect punished, others more dedicated in making reports are almost always a lot faster then me and what's even the point of assuming how good or valuable a member of the community is by the amount of reports they may or may not have made when there are also other factors at play?

Welp I hope this'll help a bit for you to understand why I don't make a lot of reports.
 
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Console

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Also I would love to add you on steam to discuss things further.
Go ahead and add me i accept All Friend rquest but if i dont respons to you is might be because i didnt noticed or im busy
 
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tomato.kitty.tf

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Update time!

Concerning Katz profile comment:
I have never commented on Katz's profile, it was not me.

My theory is that someone made an account with my name and photo outright impersonating me and made this slanderous comment in order to defame me. Tell me, why would I, knowing that Katz was an admin, make such a useless and idiotic comment when I never have even talked to Katz or have ever seen him on TF2. There's no evidence that this 'Dee' making this comment was me, I know this an easy way out, but it's the only way I can legitimately say that his evidence is insufficient. Katz if you could show me evidence that this 'Dee' we are talking about is actually me (by viewing the comment and to which it redirects to) and it showed that it came from my account then sure, you are right, but this evidence does not exist because the comment was conveniently deleted by this mysterious 'Dee'.

Concerning my recent discord suggestion:
I hate the suggestion I made, I hate the replies I made and received on it, and honestly I just want it to stop and be closed. It was a pretty horrendous suggestion and if necessary I would like to apologize for alienating admins (in case I actually did). I have a tendency to like keeping things in order, labeling everything I can see and putting everything in it's own pile. I also have some anxiety problems.

Lasly concerning my activity; I go on the forums everyday but I don't make a post everyday. I know my activity is 'lacking' but keep in mind that I am on the forums about 2 hours a day just browsing and doing nothing productive. Lately I've also started making more posts and threads, some of which are pretty good (i. e. Add numbering to server names) and some of which are not so good (Admins on Discord and my post on Moku's Admin Application). I also don't make a lot of reports because:
  1. I have donor and I can votepunish people where most of the time a votemute/gag of 30 mins is enough according to me.
  2. I don't really like making reports as they take a lot of work.
(Also I've made 3 reports not 1)

I've been recieving friend requests from what I believe was your account for a few days and I just kept declining them until that comment was sent, as you said, we do not know eachother so I don't understand all these invites...
Maybe you called me a dumbass because i kept ignoring you and then you realized that was not appropiate so you removed the comment. I do not know but I'd love to. Anyways, I do not really mind, but i wanted other admins and players to have a look at it.
 
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Dee

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I've been recieving friend requests from what i believe was your account for a few days and i just kept declining them until that comment was sent and removed afterwards...

Well no idea who that was because I have never talked to you (I think you can confirm that) and I have never send a friend request to you before.
 
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