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General Zimmer

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Name
Kristian

Your Age
16

Location
Denmark

Your SteamID
STEAM_0:1:64264519

Server Information

Have you managed servers previously?
Yes

If Yes, which ones?
My own little tf2 server. (178.63.83.148:19001)

I also have managed a DarkRP servers in Gmod called BananaDK or DKBanana(or something like that), but that's around 3-4 years ago, and the server have(sadly) died. BTW the server didn't have a forum like this community.

Are you familiar with admin commands?
Yes

On which servers do you usually play?
Orange x3 | x10 weapons (there's 2 of them)
Orange x7 | x10 weapons
Rocket Pit
The Hidden

It isn't often you see me on the hidden+rocket pit server, but it's more often than most of the blackwonder servers, and these servers are on my favorite list.

Application Questions

Why do you want to become an admin?
I do not have any big or unique reason, so I can only say "It's so I can punish rule breakers and keep the servers in order" Like most admins, and to help out with things on the forum and the discord server.

Do you know any of our current staff members?
no.

If Yes, please tell us the their names.



Please tell us when you usually play and are available.
CEST/CET | UTC +2 hours. I'm often available 16:10 - 19:00 in weekdays, and I'm often available most of the day in the weekend.

How would you go about punishing a hacker, spammer, simple rulebreaker, etc?
m = minute(s)

Repeating offenses will increase the duration by "tick". here's the tick row, 10m < 30m <60m < 120m< 300m< 600m< 6000m< 30000m< 60000m< 120000m< 240000m< perma (btw, in some cases. I might not follow the tick row. If I want to make punishments longer than 1 year, or if I think there's a special need for a longer/shorter gag/mute/ban than the amount the person in question should have.(In theory))

In theory, I will:

General

[Exploiter] record a demo of the guy(s) using their benefits and ban them for 60000/120000m/240000m. If he hasn't performed it yet, but are about to do it. I'll slay him to prevent him from doing so, and after, warn him about performing it again. If 2 tries have been made, a ban is given to him on the 3rd attempt.

[Spawn camper] Ask people to move away from their enemy's spawn door and give the enemy team space. If they/he keep doing it, The guy(s) will be slain. If They/he have been slain 2 times, the 3rd offense is a 300m ban. (goes up by 3 ticks)

[Cheater] Spectate the suspected guy, if proof were found. Get a demo of his gameplay and then immediately perma ban him.


Communication

[Voice/text spammer] Give 1 or 2 warning(s) followed up by a mute/gag on 30m to folks that don't listen to the warning(s). If it's on purpose(music, screaming, constant messaging, etc.) The mute/gag will start from 600m (and goes up by 1 or 2 ticks)

[Offender] Hint to him that he's quite offensive. If he keeps doing it, a silence is given, that starts with 60m or higher (Goes up by 2 ticks) if done with another offense, adds 1-2 ticks.

[Non-English in voice] Inform the speaker of the rule. If he keeps speaking in any other language than English, a 10m mute is given (Goes up by 1 ticks)

[Non-mature voice in voice chat] Inform the speaker of the rule. If he keeps speaking with an immature voice, a 10m mute is given. (Goes up by 1 ticks)

[Player/Admin disrespect] 60m or higher. (goes up by 2 ticks) If done with another offense, adds 1-2 ticks.

Note: All of my warnings will happen directly by a chat messages or by the voice communication on the server. This might change if I find other methods that work better.

Another note: the ticks is global and cross over to other rules.

Yet another note: 2 offenses performed at the same time will be added together, example 20m + 240000m = 240020m (Except Player disrespect, and offensive speech)

Please give any other information you might think is useful for us to know.
I like to jump around and do different things. So, some weeks I might jump into different servers a lot, some other week. I might play a lot of competitive, and a 3rd week. I might not play tf2 at all. (With a week I mean around 1-7 days)


I have ADHD, so if my mental health isn't stable. I might lose control to Rage, but I haven't had that problem for "decades", so I doubt that will have a huge impact on my performance.


I also think it's important to mention the little activity I had on the panda-community for around a year ago. I did some things I remember as terrible and stupid, and I also made 2 ban appeals for my IP address ban, and with the first appeal getting rejected. I also got a ban on my main account with the reason "just in case". I think he referred to "in case I was a cheater". Here's my profile https://www.panda-community.com/members/general-zimmer.3343/
 
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I have ADHD, so if my mental health isn't stable. I might lose control to Rage, but I haven't had that problem for "decades", so I doubt that will have a huge impact on my performance.
Getting angry is a big issue, and don't tell me you haven't been actually angry since you were six; An actual six year old doesn't know what being angery is.

What the frick frack snick snack are those punishment lengths going into thousands of minutes?!

I think I've got some extra stuff about you on my computer somewhere so I'll check when I'm home.
 

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Getting angry is a big issue, and don't tell me you haven't been actually angry since you were six; An actual six year old doesn't know what being angery is.

I do know being angry is a big deal. As for the reason i added it there ;)

Last time i remember being angry was in 4th or 3th grade, but it just feels like "decades". Sorry for not explaining that from the start. btw, I'm in 9th grade, right now.

What the frick frack snick snack are those punishment lengths going into thousands of minutes?!

I want to keep them in minutes. If you convert them into hours, days, months. They're easier to understand.
 
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I think if you're hitting even the 60000 mark for punishments they clearly wont be learning their lesson, your punishment times need more research and at this moment seem like a well thought out random amount clear in the fact the minutes dont add up to even days

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anyway I've seen you around and you seem mature and do ask for admins help, i think i've seen you on jailbreak but that could just be me being senile. but like jim said hopefully you are true in your statement that you dont experience "rage" so much anymore.

I'll go NEUTRAL for now as the app needs a bit more thinking through with the punishments
 

tomato.kitty.tf

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Please remove me from the list of known admins.

We spoke one or two times in Discord and that's all, lol.
I've never seen you playing either so...
 

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You talked with Julia yesterday like once, and she isn't even a staff member, she just interacts with the community sometimes.

EDIT: also relatively immature conversation at that (not very good examples but y'know, wasn't really a conversation with Julia at that, you just stopped by and dropped some XD's)
 

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60000/120000m/240000m.
just...why the long minutes? We never ban for 240000 (half a year) only on extremely rare cases (Like unusual hat rate cases). That isn't teaching a lesson. Usually after a 2 week ban where the player still doesn't follow the rules we will move to 1 month, than permanent ban.

41 day (1.33 months) ban on first offense for exploiting? (Please tell us what type of exploits, cause a ban that long for map exploiting is too harsh)

You have lots of post but why haven't you taken steps to getting to know the staff team? From the 2 people you put up, one said they don't know you and the other isn't even a staff member.

I have ADHD, so if my mental health isn't stable. I might lose control to Rage, but I haven't had that problem for "decades", so I doubt that will have a huge impact on my performance.
So you are saying you "might" lose control, but you are also saying you haven't had the problem in "decades"? Do you lose control or not? Why tell us something that hasn't happened in "decades"? Also, losing control to rage doesn't look to good (especially with admin powers)...

I'm gonna go neutral leaning towards -support because I don't know you very well and your punishments are too harsh. Pending new information, until then this is my verdict.
 

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If Yes, please tell us the their names.
Tomato Kat
Miss Benedevil (Aka Julia, if she count as a staff member)

These folks are the only ones I'm confident in mentioning. I deeply apologize if you aren't on the list, and think you should.

Please remove me from the list of known admins.

We spoke one or two times in Discord and that's all, lol.
I've never seen you playing either so...

You aren't even sure who is an admin. And your conversation was very immature to be having in a general chat like that.
 

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You talked with Julia yesterday like once, and she isn't even a staff member, she just interacts with the community sometimes.

EDIT: also relatively immature conversation at that (not very good examples but y'know, wasn't really a conversation with Julia at that, you just stopped by and dropped some XD's)

You haven't seen our private messages from that day, and it was my second time, and I didn't just drop some XD's. If you go way further back from those, you will see a lot more talking from my part.

but I've removed her.

just...why the long minutes? We never ban for 240000 (half a year) only on extremely rare cases (Like unusual hat rate cases). That isn't teaching a lesson. Usually after a 2 week ban where the player still doesn't follow the rules we will move to 1 month, than permanent ban.

The Exploits I think about is exploits like going under the ground with a sentry, kind of exploits or other exploits that totally ruin the fun for everyone, or at least the enemy team. I didn't think about small things like ghosting or other minor things.

Please remove me from the list of known admins.

We spoke one or two times in Discord and that's all, lol.
I've never seen you playing either so...

sorry, you're removed.

You aren't even sure who is an admin. And your conversation was very immature to be having in a general chat like that.

When I'm social, I do agree on being very immature, but if the situation requires it. I can be serious. but words can't prove that, and I know that.



I'm sorry for responding so late, I only had 15 minutes time on my pc this day(Monday) until now. So the only I was able to do is read through the responses and edit people out of the "do you know any admins" also, I misunderstood the "know" part.
 
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Jim

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The Exploits I think about is exploits like going under the ground with a sentry, kind of exploits or other exploits that totally ruin the fun for everyone, or at least the enemy team. I didn't think about small things like ghosting or other minor things.
Ruining your fun doesn't warrant a 6 month ban.

Based on the recent responses to this app I am currently showing -Support for you.
 

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You haven't seen our private messages from that day, and it was my second time, and I didn't just drop some XD's. If you go way further back from those, you will see a lot more talking from my part.
To be honest, I was there too and we had quite a nice chat, so I'd still let it pass
 

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You still have not fixed the hearts, you have doubled down on these insanely long and unreasonable punishment lengths, your application is full of typos.
Hint to him that he's quite offensive.
This was interesting.

We cannot take the risk of you "raging" even if I really doubt it would happen because of ADHD.
-support
 

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I'm gonna have to go towards -support. Claiming that having ADHD makes you rage is more of a crutch to be honest and it doesn't really make you rage its an attention disorder. I have it and ive never raged. I had trouble paying attention of course and i was hyper for a long time but I never raged and i've had it since i was born. Some of your punishments lack a bit as well. Why you want to be admin lacks as well.
 

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I'm gonna have to go towards -support. Claiming that having ADHD makes you rage is more of a crutch to be honest and it doesn't really make you rage its an attention disorder.

I was diagnosed with ADHD when i was little, or my mom told me that, and I've believed that for as long as I remember. I've also been told countless times that ADHD makes people rage faster, but I can see that's been a lie my whole life.

I do still have ADHD though.
 

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I was diagnosed with ADHD when i was little, or my mom told me that, and I've believed that for as long as I remember. I've also been told countless times that ADHD makes people rage faster, but I can see that's been a lie my whole life.

I do still have ADHD though.
You were told something and believed it blindly without questioning it once? For years? It was only a Google search away...
We're looking for critical thinkers here.
 

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As far as I know, ADHD can vary so much from person to person that you can't say for a fact what it does collectively. Some people who have it feel tired all the time, others are hyperactive, most people who have it have an extraordinarily hard time focusing on things that are boring eg. school or they struggle with holding up slightly more complex conversations, they struggle with debates. In fact, symptoms can be so vague that there is a group of people who think ADHD is fake / made up and people with ADHD behave abnormally because they have been told that there is something wrong with them. While ADHD is actually real, there are definitely a lot of misdiagnoses.

Either way, ADHD definitely doesn't directly cause "rage". What they probably meant is, you were a small kid, small kids tend to rage, and people with ADHD can be more impulsive.

EDIT: Just look at this: http://www.addcoach4u.com/documents/adultadhdscreenertest1.pdf
Anyone could score high on a test like this. It's no surprise people often don't even believe it's real.
 

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How would you go about punishing a hacker, spammer, simple rulebreaker, etc?
This entire section is cluttered and ugly. It feels like you were artificially increasing the length of the application by overly explaining such simple punishments.

[Exploiter] record a demo of the guy(s) using their benefits and ban them for 60000/120000m/240000m.
41 days for a 1st offence. These aren't GMod RP servers where the slightest hiccup nets you a few weeks in the timeout corner. Chill.
Every other punishment listed is either slightly questionable or in the clear, save for the whole "tick" system.

I have ADHD, so if my mental health isn't stable. I might lose control to Rage, but I haven't had that problem for "decades", so I doubt that will have a huge impact on my performance.
Everyone's already ripping into you because of this, so I might as well leave a little note on it.
If you haven't lost yourself to sperg rage in """""decades""""", then I see no point in bringing it up other than for sympathy or a shoddy Get Out of Jail Free card.

Outside of the application, I've probably talked to you twice or thrice in Discord and forgotten quickly because you don't stick out.
Never seen you in-game (to my knowledge), so no comment on your behaviour there.
Overall, application is bumpy, and you're a bit bumpy.
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Everyone's already ripping into you because of this, so I might as well leave a little note on it.
If you haven't lost yourself to sperg rage in """""decades""""", then I see no point in bringing it up other than for sympathy or a shoddy Get Out of Jail Free card.

It wasn't for any of the 2 reasons you mentioned. I only included it because it have a strong connection with anger and excitement, and might be something to consider. Not only for the information itself but also the fact that I brought it up.
 

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It wasn't for any of the 2 reasons you mentioned. I only included it because it have a strong connection with anger and excitement, and might be something to consider. Not only for the information itself but also the fact that I brought it up.
If you have anger problems go see someone. As for the adhd up see a doctor about it as well. But I know for a fact that adhd is and never will be linked with anger
 
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